The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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  1. RipCityRyan

    RipCityRyan Put in Dickau!!!

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    Melo is old!!
     
  2. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I'm sorry, did fans of a franchise who spent half a decade slurping LMA's peccadilloes (like shooting 80% of his shots from a place where he was lower than that 43% posted above for Melo?) really ask how an offense-first volume shooter (who happens to be a HoFer and multiple Gold Medalist) can help our team for the price of what we spent on Luke Babbitt and two of our bigger FA overpays from last summer?

    Personally, I don't think he'd waive the no - trade to come here (as someone who has lived turning down job offers b/c of wife-mandated geography, I understand), but if he did, I don't think there's an issue with buy-in. He has to understand and respect Dame/CJ/Nurk (if nothing other than reboudning and D). He's not having to give shots up to Jeremy Lin, for goodness' sakes. I think the Dirk comparisons above are pretty astute, except that Melo (who's a worse shooter, duh) would be getting much more open looks than Dirk did in 2011. Melo, when he cares about D, has absolutely shown he can play it. You saw what KD was able to do to up his game on the D end this year, and to a lesser extent CJ.

    Melo for (Crabbe or Turner)/Leonard/#15? I'm by no means the biggest Melo fan, but dude has talent, and if he'd come here (especially for that package)

    You telling me that Melo and Lillard would play worse D than 3x-in-a-row NBA Finalists Kyrie and K-love? GTFOH. I agree with BNM and others that getting George as well would be a damn coup, but I don't think it's a requirement to play well. Maybe a requirement to get Melo to waive the no-trade...
     
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  3. blue9

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    So what did you think of Aldridge before he became a Spur?
     
  4. RipCityRyan

    RipCityRyan Put in Dickau!!!

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    I thought that he had the potential to be the best PF in the game when he wasn't whining about not being the guy. He was soft, his defense was ok at best and his inside game was never as consistent as it needed to be. I dont miss him.
     
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  5. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If the cost is Crabbe/Leonard/15, the age is 28, and the defense is better than that of the players we'd be giving up, how could defense, cost and age be arguments against trading for Love? If it makes us better, which it would, then it's worth a look.
     
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    I actually would have picked Carmelo first ahead of James in that draft. He was an amazing, proven winner and leader in college. Not sure why that didn't translate. If I could get that college Carmelo back I would certainly take him. If he does end up in Portland maybe it will be his chance at redemption.
     
  7. Pinwheel1

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    You just never know about 18-19 year olds. I mean you can often see if they will be good, but not whether or not they have that extra competitive fire to be the best like LeBron, Michael, Magic, Kobe and Bird all had. Some players are consumed with it on a daily basis and those are the players you want. Not saying you can't have other hobbies in the off season, but these guys are all known for their off season work in getting better each year. Melo might have peaked a little early. Nonetheless he was still unstoppable with Denver.
     
  8. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The Cavs might trade Love, but would they be willing to go with Melo in his place (contract-wise)?

    I'd think the Cavs might get PG or Jimmy Butler in a deal for Love - two guys I'd much rather have at this point.
     
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    Isn't it wise to build from the draft though? Slow & steady, or is that just for small market teams?
     
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    I can see the Pacers pulling the trigger on that as they have nothing to lose after next season, but I can't see the Bulls helping Cleveland like that when they don't really have to trade JB.
     
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    The stories are similar in the two cities. Talk that the player might be moved.

    The Bulls desperately need a superstar level player in return. We've seen that Love can put up huge numbers on a bad team; he'd be a perfect fit there.

    Two other guys I like on the Bulls are Mirotic and Portis. For a team that really needs youth, the Bulls feel they've squandered their chances to build an up and coming roster. Both these guys are considered a disappointment in Chicago. Mirotic is a head case. somewhat. Portis couldn't earn time there, no matter how good he played. Denzel Valentine had a bust of a rookie year, compared to how he was hyped there.

    The thing is, I don't see anything we have that would appeal to the Bulls for any of these guys, outside of CJ and Nurk.
     
  12. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If there were any way the Blazers could add Portis to Dame/CJ/Nurk, that would be a move I could absolutely get behind

    D'oh!! You had to ruin it, didn't you?
     
  13. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    You think the Pacers want to build around Love or get 3-4 1st round picks?
     
  14. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Depends on whether the Pacers think any/all of those mid-late first round picks would be better players than Kevin Love.

    Chances are that they won't.
     
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    Well, the Bulls have Butler at SF, so giving up one of our SFs wouldn't be a big win for them.

    Their only 2 PFs are Mirotic and Portis, but I don't see any of our PFs being seen as an upgrade (or enough of one).

    I almost think Crabbe might be of some interest to them, but not in return for the players they'd have to send to match the contract. Had Wade not opted in, then their interest might be significant.
     
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    3-4 first round picks would be the smart move for sure. Really my take was that the Pacer-Cavs trade has a chance to occur, while the Bulls trade does not.
     
  17. Denny Crane

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    Actually... our draft picks might be very interesting to the Bulls...
     
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    I agree. If we offered all our picks, both Chicago and Indiana should be interested. Makes much more sense than either of them going after Love.
     
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    Peak value for most of these draft picks is right before the draft if the past has been any indication.
     
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    This is true. The hype machine is at it's peak right before the draft. I know I get a little geeked up on draft day and then the day after the realization sets in that they all need to get a lot better before they can help us.
     
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