OT Lonzo Ball

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  1. riverman

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    I watched a ton of his games this season...my criticisms of him don't have anything to do with his dad....he's not athletic enough to bang with the big boys in my view....no muscle....in college he was knocked over by small players all the time. I just think he's hype.
     
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    He's still going Top-6. Even at #10, he'd make $9.1M over three years. If he manages his money wisely, that's more than enough to live on. It's more than I'll likely make in my lifetime.

    And I consider myself to make pretty darn good money.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    all that doesn't make you a good parent or not. My parents were good parents, but I didn't get a college scholarship.

    I'd love it if my child wasn't a tool.
     
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    I'm not convinced he goes top 6. But he will probably at least go at 10 when Randaviv thinks they've found the next Curry.
     
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    Daddy may have control over his money, you know.. to 'bolster' Big Baller Brand.
     
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    Convinced or not.... he's still going to make enough money. I feel good about what I make, but I'd love to make over the course of 25 years what he'll make over the next three years. So, that's more than jack shit to me.
     
  7. bodyman5000 and 1

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    I meant me...number 10. Maybe more fitting under 2 or 4
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    LaVar Ball seems like a bit of an asshole in terms of his public persona, but none of us really know how good or bad he is as a father. Maybe he's great. Maybe he's a lunatic.

    Lonzo Ball seems like a normal kid. Cocky at times, polite at times--typical young guy. There's no particular reason to root for or against him. I don't hope he fails, though I think some people (and I'm certainly not aiming this at anyone in particular) are getting overly caught up in the hype machine. I don't think he a phenom--he's "merely" a very nice prospect with a dazzling skill.
     
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    So you're saying Lonzo is a tool?
     
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    More like a mere pawn, for LaVar....
     
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    Kids are most certainly a reflection of the parenting they are getting. The only way we can judge parenting is to take note of the behavior of the children.

    Lonzo is:

    Confident
    Well spoken
    Unselfish
    A hard worker

    Say what you want about his daddy but those traits come from somewhere and they are all learned traits not inherent.
     
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    GTFO with this bull. I can't stand LaVar's mouth but I give credit where it is due when I look at the success of his children. He's raised good kids. Plain and simple.
     
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    It was sarcasm. AKA.... someone called him a tool, so I was making a play off of it. There are many ways to be a "tool".

    That being said, I know nothing about his kids other than what they do on the court, so I'm not judging one way or another.

    LaVar, however, is a tool.
     
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    Works so hard that he skipped the combine completely and entered his ONLY pre-draft workout out of shape.
     
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    Every single kid that is considered for the NBA draft has worked hard. Stop it...
     
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    None have been in trouble in school or with the law. Being an unselfish player is a testament to how you are in real life. There have been no behavior issues nor any semblance of them being bad teammates, headcases, or cancers.

    C'mon man. We know who the good kids are. They're easy to spot.
     
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    I don't agree with that at all. That's the "children are nothing but lumps of clay to be molded by parents" image that a lot of people hold about children and parenting which I think is 100% off base. Children have their own personalities, own tendencies, etc. Parents can do their best to guide them down the right paths and provide them love and support so that they have the best environment to self-actualize, but the idea that parents "craft" children into who they become is definitely not true. I've seen great people who had totally scumbag parents and a couple of people who were just awful despite really caring and responsible parents. Even outside of value judgements, a lot of my friends have totally different personalities and standards of behavior than their parents. I would never consider kids to be reflections of their parents/parenting.
     
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    I don't completely agree. I mean, Jason Kidd is a dirtbag. But what a hardworking, unselfish basketball player on the court. I don't recall many or any off-the-court issues with him early on, but maybe there were. And I didn't exactly get warm fuzzies with the high school Ball pointing at the half court line and throwing up a shot from there (I mean, I was impressed from the athletic perspective).

    I'm not saying the Ball kids aren't solid kids. I'm just saying I personally don't know enough about them to judge them either way.
     
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    Are you a parent? We agree to disagree. My son is who he is because of what I put in him.
     
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    Also, having scumbag parents can make kids go in the opposite direction. My father was never there and because of that I didn't have my son until I was 30. I did that to make sure that I would never miss a day.

    Again, are you a parent?
     
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