OT 7 U.S. Sailors Unaccounted for After Navy Destroyer Collides With Ship Off Japan

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  1. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I believe there is only one head on any ship. However, multiple places may used for this function.
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    She gave birth in a barn, cleanliness wasn't that big of a concern.
     
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    Kamikaze?
     
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    Tin can is right. I'm surprised, I thought those ships were built stronger to withstand shit like this and torpedoes and what not. That ship crumpled like a beer can.
     
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    said as a qualfied Surface OOD on a Naval ship, there's no f****** excuse for EVER running into someone. Even if they were running dark...even if there was no radar and the fog was as thick as pea soup...even if the every one of the lookouts were asleep....even if the most junior officer on the damn ship was OOD....even if there were emergencies all over causing loss of electrical power and alarms wailing all over the ship. I've navigated through a channel with half the engineroom down and exposed in a hailstorm.

    You still have sonar. An entire bridge team. Plotters. CBDR for heaven knows how long. C'mon, man. And this isn't just a paint scrape or an embarrassing run-aground. People are hurt and missing.

    I'm super-interested in the Lessons Learned off of this one. Though I'm guessing this: Pay attention to previous Lessons Learned and do your job. Complacency kills. Law of Gross Tonnage generally applies.
     
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    And being on the Blue Ridge should count more for Shore Duty than Sea. Admirals don't go to sea without comfort. :)
     
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    No Shit Sir!!!
    I'm interested in the lessons to learn. But Dammitt! I think we have been here before. Crew may fall asleep, but fuck! Someone has to take responsibility.
     
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    No, Destroyers were never built to withstand much of anything. But then this ship is really not a Destroyer, she is a multipurpose compromise. Too heavy and too deep to provide direct fire close to the beach, too light to take punishment, too lightly armed to actually serve as a gun ship, but yet more fire power than a fleet of Battleships.

    I am afraid these ships are right in the class of what Alfred Mahan warned about. A feat of technology, designed to please the Fleet Commanders that can't remember reasons for having a Navy. But that has nothing to do with colliding with a merchantman.
     
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    She's a smooth ride with that one 20 ft screw driving her.....I had no complaints....
     
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    Blue Ridge was certainly comfortable for a navy ship, but being a flagship, it was also "Mickey Mouse" 24/7. We had to walk a pretty straight line at all times, even stateside. My friends on other (non flag) ships had it far more mellow most of the time.........
     
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    That's because technically they ARE beer cans. There's a lot more aluminum than steel in today's warships. That makes them cheaper and faster...........and far more fragile. The British Navy found out that the hard way during the Falklands Islands War. Today's defensive capabilities and technologies are intended to counterbalance the lack of armor, but they're only as good as the folks operating them......
     
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    And in this case, it is a stretch to call this operating. I don't know, but just one of the many possibilities, they sacked the Capitan and broke out the stash.
     
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    I've heard that it doesn't matter whose fault a crash like this is, the captain loses command of his ship and will most likely take retirement or put on permanent desk duty.
     
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    Correct. either he messed up himself or didn't train his crew properly. either way, thanks for playing, enjoy retirement.
     
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    Though if he's an Academy grad the landing might be a little softer.....
     
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    Maybe the freighter was using a Romulan Cloaking Device.

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    Reported all confirmed dead. Sucks.
     
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