Around the NBA - July 2017 Edition

So then, Vonleh and the draft pick are MASSIVELY valuable then?

 

Damn, not worth that imo

 

Massively valuable in the sense that it could land us a decent vet around ET's level on the floor with a more favorable contract.

 

You think Korver signs with a team that doesn't have LBJ/wasn't in the finals over the Cavs given same or even relatively similar money?

Most of the low budget signings are players who are looking to join or remain with a contender. We have and had no shot at them.

When a young player with potential signs for - 'bargain' then Olshey might've made mistakes; thus far, he has been justified, imo.

 

To Toronto?

 

Almost every NBA player can play 2 positions. Booker can play the 4/5 as well. Bench players that can play 3 positions at a below-average level aren't as valuable as a bench player that can play 1 position at an average level.

We destroy all our depth? We destroy our versatility? What???
We'd have Lin, Crabbe, Davis, and Collins off the bench. Our bench gets better. Davis and Collins can play both PF and C, which you seem to value. Lin can play PG and SG, and Crabbe can play SG and SF.

Examples of the players we could have added with $10M of cap this year: PJ Tucker would've been awesome, he signed for $8M a year. Patrick Patterson would be awesome as well, he'll make less than $10M a year. Almost enough for James Johnson (for between $12M and $15M). Johnson would be the perfect PF for us (and is a SF/PF combo).

 

I assume so

 

What a shit tweet... he doesn't even say with whom. Woj is slipping.

 

If Leonard and Turner are massively invaluable, then why are you fretting about the idea of losing Vonleh and a pick for upgrades off the bench while also getting rid of those two?

 

33.3 mil per season lol Dame is a underpaid at this point.

 

As much as I like Booker and think he would solve a lot of Portland's issues at the 4 in the short term.
I don't do this trade if I'm Portland.

Frankly for two reasons.
Aminu and Turner do not have negative value around the league.
Even Nards, for everything he's not, has some value due to his minimal contract.

 

Surprise surprise, cap does not go up by $25M this year and average players are not getting $18M right, left and centre?

 

Earlier this year I believe. I know it sucks, but Woj is top notch and I can't bring myself to associate him with ESPN.

 

News has been out for a couple months, but officially started July 1st with the start of free agency.

 

It was 1st of july.

 

What were our most common lineups?

Vonleh, Turner, Aminu were all part of them. Were they not?

Why were they part of them?

Vonleh could play 4/5 and switch on to some 3s.

Aminu could guard 2-4, but ended up guarding 1-5.

Turner could guard 1-3.

Jeremy Lin is a piss poor defender (but I'd actually like this part of the trade) because I like his game. Jeremy Lin overlaps with CJ and Damian, unlike ET, because he isn't as versatile, which greatly limits our lineups right there. Unless you plan on playing ball dominant Jeremy Lin with our ball dominant back court and being undersized at SF if you want to replace ETs versatility.

Thus, you just limited our depth and versatility quite significantly just by removing Evan Turner and his skillset. This doesn't even touch on the fact that no one we acquire replace Aminu or Vonleh, which makes us lose 2 possibly SF, 2 possible PFs, a C and a PG because those 3 players are capable of replicating the skillset of essentially six players (and not doing it as poorly as you say). Neither Davis or Collins have the skillset of Aminu or Vonleh, which is hard to replace. Collins we haven't seen at all so it's hard to say more there.

How does Jeremy Lin change any of that? What options does he give us that we don't already have? He also plays at our most crowded position, PG and SG since CJ and Dame aren't off the court much. He also will compete with Crabbe for Backup SG minutes when one of Dame/CJ is on the court being that he is too small for SF.

James Johnson could get up to 20mm/year and we have NO chance at him. PJ Tucker got 11/year and took the MLE with Houston because of His good friend, Chris Paul. We will see on Patrick Patterson.

So we get Lin, Booker and PJ tucker for Vonleh, ET, Aminu, Meyers and a 1st round pick? Talk about getting fleeced in a trade?

Dame/CJ/Crabbe/Collins/Nurk with

Vonleh, ET, Aminu

OR

Dame / CJ / Crabbe / Collins / Nurk

Lin / Tucker / Booker

Not to mention the first round pick we randomly give away.

And we still have ED and Harkless, who are better than OR nearly equivalent to Tucker and Booker.

I'd rather retain our assets than trade assets for older, similar producing players that have little room for improvement, in order to create limited cap space for a player who historically averages single digit points and rebounds and limits our rotations in a significant way, while the best player we receive in return replicates a skillset we already have and minimizes lineup flexibility and would receive limited minutes.

Better than accepting a shitty trade.

 

Too much for the regular season, WAY TOO MUCH for his playoff performance.