The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Agreed. Given our cap/tax situation, no way in hell do we do a deal to help to other teams that leaves us with the worst contract and nothing else to show for it. Anderson is basically an older, taller, slightly better, more injury prone version of Crabbe on an equally bad contract (perhaps even worse, given his age and injury history).

    That's the sticking point, nobody wants Anderson and his contract. HOU NEEDS to move him to get Carmelo. NYK doesn't want him because old guys on bad contracts do nothing to help a rebuilding team, and we don't want him for the reasons above. So, the only way we help them out is if somebody (NYK) takes back one or two of our bad contracts or somebody throws in a player we actually want, and/or draft picks.

    As you said, no way are WE the ones throwing in young players and picks to get Ryan Fucking Anderson.

    BNM
     
  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Well more of a dumpster fire at least . . .
     
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    And he left Orlando because he signed a big contract as a RFA from New Orleans, so they did a sign and trade to recover some garbage asset. This is like a demonstrably wrong take.

    Ryan Anderson keeps getting these big deals, what a shitty player!
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    And there was I thinking RFA stood for Restricted Free Agent.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Say what y'all want but I think we're winning 50 games next season.

    #nurkfever
     
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    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that works to make my reply bigger but it doesn't change the font size for everyone else's threads and posts; they are still small!
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    How about the "control" key and then the "+" key?
     
  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Please stop perpetuating this myth. It simply is not true.

    First, the sample size is ridiculously small. Second, most of the games were against weak competition and C.J. was balling out of his mind. Third, he was starting at SG. Start him at SF with C.J. at SG and Dame at PG and we will get absolutely eviscerated by pretty much every team in the Western Conference, certainly in our division. That would easily be the worst defensive trio of starters in the league.

    And finally, the stats:

    Crabbe as a starter: 32.9 MPG, 10.1 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 1.7 APG, .375 FG%, .346 3FG%, .500 TS%
    Crabbe off the bench: 28.1 MPG, 10.8 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 1.1 APG, .479 FG%, .453 3FG%, .614 TS%

    Those are HORRIBLE numbers for a starter. Just look at the difference in his shooting percentages starting vs. coming off the bench. And, given the fact that Crabbe is completely incapable of creating shots for himself, that's EXACTLY what you would expect. He struggles to score, the one and only thing he's paid $19 million a year to do, against other starters. And, he can't guard them either.

    Starting Allen Crabbe is a horrible, horrible idea - if you're goal is to win enough games to make the playoffs. Starting Allen Crabbe next to Dame and C.J. only makes sense if you decide to go into full on tank mode on opening night. Harkless is basically an average starting SF, but that makes him a way, WAY, WAY better starting SF than Allen Crabbe.

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  9. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Good stuff (as usual) BNM.

    One question I have is whether starting Crabbe at SG, rather than SF, and bringing CJ off the bench at both guard positions, might be in the best interests of the the Blazers. I don't really like to see Crabbe taking up any minutes at SF. I'd rather go with Harkless and Turner.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    There is a legend that if you say the name "Allen Crabbe" three times in a mirror, BNM will appear to tell you how shitty Crabbe is.
     
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    Yes, that seems to have worked, thanks.
     
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    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    I can't fault the Pacers much for not finding anyone out side our big 3 particularly appealing. Hark is probably on the best contract. But 3 first round picks?

    Sabonis is looking like a scrub at best. Oladiop is another average player making 20+ million. I'd have taken the 3 draft picks + Harkless over that.

    This may turn out for the best though, if George goes to LA after one year anyway.
     
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  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Nope, those stats are for Crabbe as a starting SG. His complete inability to create shots for himself or others, makes him a horrible starter. That, plus his abysmal defense. Allen Crabbe will never be a starter on a good team. Sure, he could start for BRK or ORL, but if your goal is to make the playoffs, Crabbe as a starter is not the answer.

    BNM
     
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    I get that you don't like Crabbe. How about crab cakes? ;)
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Or you could just watch him play and see for yourself.

    I have always given him credit for his elite ability to knock down open 3-pointers. It's his one true skill, and one he does exceptionally well.

    My problem is he does not do one other thing even close to average. Words like "sucks at everything else" are inflammatory, but when I challenge the Crabbe fanboys to name ONE other thing he's even average at, I hear crickets. Last year, they tossed out things like he's an above average rebounder for his size/position (wrong, Shabazz Napier is a better rebounder), he's a good passer (wrong, Meyers Leonard has a much higher AST%), he's good at getting steals (tied for 12th on the team in STL%), etc.

    So, when I hear talk of starting Crabbe, yeah I shoot it down, because it would be a fucking disaster. I actually want this team to win as many games as possible. Making our starting line up smaller and even worse defensively is NOT the answer.

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  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Love crab cakes, crab legs, crab cocktail, etc. If Allen Crabbe would change his first name to Dungeness maybe I'd like him more.

    BNM
     
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    You may be right. But, four teams in nine years just doesn't seem to point to high value. He has never shot less than 36% so he pretty much is what he always was.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It would be kinda fun to go around baiting you though.

    Operation: Give BNM writers cramp
     
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    I believe he plays better with the starters than the bench players....but no matter what you call myth...his stats are overwhelmingly collected from bench minutes....I think most players play better with starting level players....please stop calling opinions myths...you're welcome to yours and welcome to feel it's your truthful opinion....as are we all
     
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    Crabbe started at SF when Batum was injured and played some of his best ball.....but that's a myth according to BNM right?
     
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