The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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  1. riverman

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    nobody is calling Crabbe a star around here....and believe me...we've all seen him play for ourselves
     
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    Yeah, but he gave the stats when Crabbe starts. While they are a small sample size, it certainly doesn't provide any positive evidence for starting him.

    All players are better off working off the talents of better players, yes. However, it's complicated by the fact that they go up against better players too--the opposing teams' starters. So it's not clear that a player like Crabbe, who struggles even against lesser players, would derive a benefit from starting even if you take into account better teammates around him.
     
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    I've decided people who compare Lillard & CJ to Ellis & Curry get their basketball card revoked for 6 months.
    It's just lazy.

    But... but... @Sinobas NO is just sitting on his hands, not doing anything! Why couldn't he put together a package for pg13? He deserves to be fired! He's on vacation! omg NO why no trade for pg13!
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    Did I miss any? Maybe Sly can fill in the ones I missed if I did?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Why is it different?
     
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    I'm not going to repeat myself again on why CJ & Ellis are different players completely.
    You're welcome to go back and look at my post history though.
     
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    Because of how different of players CJ and Ellis are, primarily. Everyone discusses the defensive end, but offensively, Steph and Ellis not a good pair, CJ and Dame are. Ellis' inability to shoot made him a poor fit alongside Steph.
     
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    Isn't this what Beetlejuice was based on?
     
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    I would challenge you to show me a time where a combo like Dame/CJ has worked as a formula for a championship.

    Two score-first, sub-6'6, poor defense guards that like to have the ball in their hands.

    Show me where that has been a recipe for success.

    Earl Monroe and Walt Frazier maybe?
     
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    From a basketball perspective, and if you take out all personal feelings, it is very logical to believe one of them should be traded. Not only is having two smallish guards who aren't great defenders a bad idea generally, but you would legitimately receive a windfall and be able to address several needs. But it would be incredibly ballsy.
     
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    Dumars and Isiah were two small guards who scored a lot of points. Although Joe was a perennial all NBA Defense guy so there's that...
     
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    Why are you changing the topic? Now it's about championships?
    I'm revoking peoples ability to talk about basketball when they say Lilard & CJ are a copy of Curry & Ellis.
    It's lazy.
    I've already explained why this is not the case a year or so ago.
    I won't do it again.

    p.s. Parker & Manu were shoot first players who sucked ass defensively yet still won rings.
    (Oh I can hear the reply now... 'But they had the GOAT coach & pf')
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    Championships are not a way to determine if players work together or not, otherwise Stockton & Malone sucked and never should've been together.
    See what I did there?
     
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    And there's the rub...
     
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    Uhhhhhhhhhhh........ YES!

    If it's not about trying to win a championship, what the fuck is it about!?!
     
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    Ginobili was an excellent defender in his prime.
     
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    first half of last season I celebrated winning quarters of basketball games....beating the Lakers is always fun
     
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    But that doesn't fit with his narrative (along with that GOAT PF and Head coach.)
     
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    lol....


    [imghttp://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Kobe+Bryant+Bruce+Bowen+Los+Angeles+Lakers+zos3bRgQbkZl.jpg[/img]
     
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    He brought the soccer flop to another level if that's what you mean
     
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    Oh well I messed up the link, being that I'm unable to edit my own posts now...

    [​IMG]
     
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