The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

The draft is exciting, with a lot of hope and optimism for the new guys. But in reality, it's a lot more difficult to get an All-Star than most think.

Here are the percentages from the 1990 thru 2010 drafts:

Unless you have that #1 pick (or #3), you have less than 50% chance of grabbing an all-star. If you draft after #3, your odds get pretty slim very quickly.

 

I agree. Earlier today I mentioned a 3-guard rotation consisting of Dame, CJ, and a defensive guard. I wanted our team to draft a defensive guard like Donovan Mitchell so he could play extensive minutes with Dame and/or CJ depending upon match-ups and in-game adjustments.

 

So my 40% guess wasn't too bad. 30% was too low though. Now @Wizard Mentor question comes into play. How many of those starts in the All Star game were with another team then the one that drafted the player? Because if a percentage over 50 was the case then that doesn't help the top 5 team much either.

 

I don't think we're gonna have an All-Star for a while unless we win some games.

 

2002: 1 of 5
2003: 4 of 5
2004: 2 of 5
2005: 2 of 5
2006: 1 of 5
2007: 2 of 5
2008: 3 of 5
2009: 2 of 5
2010: 2 of 5
2011: 1 of 5
2012: 1 of 5
2013: 0 of 5
2014: 0 of 5
2015: 0 of 5
2016: 0 of 5

I'll drop off the last 4 years, it's a 38% all star rate.

 

and in the mean time you play them tough and contribute to their decline with depth and young legs

 

So you don't think David Lee or Jeremy Lin will sign here?

 

I stopped responding because you have an aggressive tone with everyone you interact with that doesn't share your opinion or you try and e-bully them. I noticed a couple others point it out, which is why I left no comment at all.


Still, you trade 4 players and a pick for 2 players. We then have very little maneuverability in regards to accumulating more talent, as we would still be in a disadvantageous position in regards to the cap. That is when you stated trade more players to get a free agent. I asked who, you gave examples...

I said it destroys the team because Evan Turner specifically is integral to this team moving forward and you're changing a lot of rotations. Having someone like him who could play with Dame/CJ collapse the defense and kick to them, Collins, or Nurk is a massive advantage. He can also play 3 positions and can play alongside both of them, one of them or neither of them.

Not interested in this conversation with you though - have a good one.

 

Shows how brutal the west is...half of the Warriors roster is guaranteed an allstar slot and the other half will be the Rockets

 

TBH this thread has been great.

There's been a great mix of quality analysis, shit talking, and history discussion/debate/correction.

When we click, we really click.

Good work everyone.

 

Wait... I have the aggressive tone? I had an aggressive tone with you because of 1.) The way you responded to the Lin idea and 2.) The fact that you changed my trade as a way to make me seem ridiculous, and then after I told you that's not what I said, you did it again!

I've already voiced my disagreement on Turner, as last year he wasn't enough of a scoring threat to collapse the defense, as it's not hard for defenders to keep him in front because they don't have to pressure him, as he's extremely inefficient past 10 feet. He's also not someone you want playing PG. He can play 3 in theory, but can only play 2 effectively, and can only play SG effectively if he has a 3pt shooting SF and PF or C next to him (need 3 shooters on the court at all times). Lin could play two positions effectively at all times, as he's a better shooter and passer than Turner. He replicates what you value so much. We have a different opinion on those players, but don't come at me with "You just love DESTROYING the team". That's just stupid because anyone who knows me knows I want this team as much as anyone.

So don't be salty and play the victim card after you sent BS my way.

 

. I'd love for Paul to to take a 38%-60% chance of landing an all-star by simply taking on salary when our payroll is already fucked as it is.

 

...at which point we'll bring up Dontonio Wingfield...

 

Yeah, I miss PapaG too.

 

The only thing that's going to slow them down is injuries to key players, guys defecting for more money and/or father time. We ain't got nothing to do with it.

 

I'll start one...Strenuus is actually Kaleb Canales

 

I was wondering how this thread had 30 pages with barely any updates, it's all because you guys went off on an off topic tangent.

 

I can't believe we're thirty pages in and this is still just a rumor lol

 

Denny is happy at least.