Science Right-to-carry laws make us less safe

Not at all. It is off the table. But I do hope Kingspeed is not risking having one around. He would be in harms way.

 

Riverman can't even see the ignorance of others on a topic. To say your less safe with a gun is completely ignorant and the reasons being because some child could get their hands on it and shoot you or themselves and you're more likely to kill yourself with it around?

Do any of these people actually know how many people own guns?!?! gun safety? our are you too guarded and in safe spaces to understand?

 

Yep. The last estimates I saw, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, was about 180 million gun owners owning about 300 million guns in this country. So, by the emotions of Liberals, there should be over a few million deaths a year in this country just from guns alone.

 

BLM responds to that nutso NRA ad:

 

The NRA's spokesman is a black lawyer from Texas who was a pro-gun activist long before he was hired by the NRA.

You lose.

The burden of proof is on you. I have a feeling that you simply disagree with facts though, so you're just throwing this out there desperately.

 

Well, you obviously care, so how is the math wrong? Hell, it's not like my math skills were ever good, nor did I make that graphic. So break it down for us.

Even assuming that the math is wrong, I'm willing to bet good money that less than 1% of our population dies from firearms each year. So the point still stands: America does not have a gun violence problem.

 

For the same reason that Liberals have decided that 10 rounds is okay in a magazine, and not 11 or 12 or....

And I don't consider it important, as accidents only happen to the careless and the criminal. If you avoid the hood, and maintain strict responsibility with firearms, then your chances of dying from a firearm are almost zero.

I'm more likely to die in a car accident than I am to die by a gun. But that doesn't mean I'm going to stop driving.

Cancer is a disease. Misusing firearms is a choice.

Okay.

We're currently at 326 million people as of this year, so the number is likely closer to 0.0003%. But whatever....it's still a minuscule amount of cases.

Again: minuscule. You are more likely to be killed in a car accident.

http://asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics

WAAAYY more likely.

Good. Now, if you actually want to fix this so-called problem, focus on poverty (jobs in poor areas), fixing the education system, and overhauling the mental health system.

But since those three things will never get done or addressed, then the easy, half-ass answer is to blame the inanimate object.

Blaming guns is like trying to fight a 1 million acre wildfire with a watering can. And it's even more asinine to blame the NRA for it too.

 

Well, since you don't like firearms, then that is irrelevant. And I don't associate with those who are dangerous or careless with firearms.

See? Personal choices.

Does "efforts to make car accidents less deadly" include restricting horsepower and performance parts, as well as certain types of cars based on their looks?

If your answer to that is "yes", then my answer is no, I do not support that.

Fine, whatever. My point still stands.

Remind me what Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Regan, or Carter have done to fix the education system, jobs in the hood, and mental health.

Go ahead....I'll wait.

If they had addressed these issues, then they wouldn't be such a problem today, and you know it. This is a continuing, nation-wide problem with BOTH political parties, and anyone who says otherwise is a fucking moron of epic proportions.

I didn't like Obama, but even I'm not dumb enough to think he could have fixed these problems in two terms.

 

LMAO. Sure. In theory I could also get struck by lightning on a sunny day too. Ban clouds!

You feel safer on Rosa Parks than in Cascade Park, huh? Dumbest thing you've said in this entire thread.

Yeah, I see a problem with that. You trust the government too much. Whereas I don't, but I accept it for what it is: a giant fucking mess that is going to take decades to fix.

Let me guess.....you don't trust the government to balance a budget properly, but you're perfectly okay with them legislating feel-good laws about guns.

Am I right?

So....do you see any problem there?

 

Wow!

Accidental shootings, Hillbillies?

Sounds like a moron with dementia maturing.

 

Why do you constantly claim everybody you disagree with just reads what you said wrong and why do you always end your posts with smart ass remarks thinking you just hit a grand slam and really proved your point?

also you apparently forget about what you say

convenient. Sounds a lot like somebody with a god complex who thinks they are always right

 

But see you aren't nearly as clever as you think, you kinda just come off as an ignorant bitter older man. Any point I have ever made to you, you claim I just didn't read it right. You do it with everybody you disagree with. instead of addressing their points you wanna act stupid and say "oh well I didn't say that". Then you end it with some remark trying to down the other person. Or you just take shots silently and then bounce. You instigate. Then you act like you did nothing wrong when called out. Classic progressive.

Lets not forget you referred to me as a female last night, basically using it as a negative but you would quickly white knight yourself to the one lady with cats on the forum. Ironic

 

Bullshit. You clearly said that there was nicer places than Vancouver (which I'm sure there are, but it's an irrelevant argument for the current topic), and you all but directly said that Vancouver has a bunch of hillbillies in it that shoot each other.

How else am I supposed to interpret that?

But whatever. Stick to the point: firearms. Not your irrational dislike of Vancouver.

Yes, they do. Criminals tend to have more accidents than others because they tend to be less educated and more prone spontaneous and irrational behavior; to acting out without thinking first. This is common knowledge.

Wrong again, and you know it. This is exactly what I said:

There you go.

I know his game bro. He has a habit of doing this, but I'm no fool. Unlike him, I'm actually properly educated on this subject. All he has are emotional arguments given to him gun control advocates, who use emotion in the place of rational reasoning and facts.

It's easy to beat.

So I shouldn't take anything you say seriously because you enjoy making smart ass remarks? That's it, isn't it? You don't actually care about any of this stuff....you just want to win "gotcha" arguments to make yourself feel validated.

Yep. Cippy knows how it is. He knows your game.

Barfo, you can't win an argument by saying "I'm right, and you're wrong". You have to actually articulate your reasonings and back them up with verifiable facts. So far, you haven't done that. At all.

And if I counter your arguments with logic and reasoning, then you need to either A) find another way to approach the argument, or B) find another way to explain your point in a way that I can relate to you with.

You haven't done or attempted either of those things. So....why not try it, instead of being a constant smart ass who's only response is "I'm right and you're wrong". Because you're never going to win this argument otherwise.