Politics Donald Trump Jr just confessed to Trump campaign election fraud

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  1. riverman

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    There should not be double standards but if somebody broke the speed limit and didn't get a ticket doesn't mean the guy pulled over today won't get one...are you actually surprised that there's a double standard between the Dems and GOP? Trump invited scrutiny from all corners of the political map by insulting large segments of the world repeatedly.....he's invited a culture of division and mistrust ...ugliest way to govern I've ever seen...I'm for one, not impressed with our administration's conduct or manner of governing...are you? I was open to the pres earning my trust but he's not going to do that period...can't be trusted....I thought he'd lobby for Taiwan to get a seat in the UN but ......nah....he used the double standard there too...first strike against me trusting him...now it's the MO in DC to do nothing but project double standards
     
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    You didn't answer my question, just deflected into a screed about governing style.

    If someone so bent out of shape about this Trump Jr. thing, they should REALLY be upset about the Trump Dossier, which isn't a 20 minute meeting about nothing - it's weeks' of paid for research to a foreign investigator who used Russian sources. The facts known about it are hard facts.

    I for one think ANYONE governing is better than the alternative the Dems offered.
     
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    Trump is a major foreign policy disaster.....see N Korea shooting off ICBMs and Iran saying...ok..we might as well build weapons now because he's not going to work with us
     
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    at least I stayed current.....you on the other hand are still trying to dig up Hillary dirt....trust is what makes America great again....difference between you and I is you trust this administration and I don't.
     
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    what part of "there should not be double standards" did you not understand as an answer....why don't you just say until I bitch about Hillary, you'll disagree with me.
     
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    you can wear blinders all you want...and respect his governing style...not me
     
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    I don't care for his governing style. Some of the things he's doing and wants to do, I am for, others I am not for.

    If he takes a hatchet to government and reigns in the deficits, no amount of politics of personal destruction matters.
     
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    Here's the thing. I am not bitching about the legality or morality of what the Clinton campaign did. Though if she were elected, all sorts of these things (and worse) would simply be swept under the rug amid another (talk about blinders!) love fest for the Democrat.

    My gripe is that it was made public without any basis of fact behind the accusations in it. And the collusion between the Democrats and the deep state.

    Let the Democrats do their worst. Keep government independent of it all.
     
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    And we go around in circles. There wouldn't be a war in Syria if not for Obama/Clinton.
     
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    ASSAD!!!!!!!!!ASSAD!!!!!!!! He's dependant upon the US and Russia to run his country right? He opened the borders to Husseins henchmen when we invaded Iraq right? but it's our fault.....
     
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    Not following the argument here. So Jeb Bush's team hired a Brit to dig up dirt on Trump. The Brit got some dirt by talking to Russians. The research ended up being distributed to various others and eventually made public.

    Which part of that do you think is illegal or unethical, and who is to blame for that part?

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    Fixed it for you, and yes, it's our fault.
     
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    Clinton's team hired a Brit to dig up dirt on Trump.

    Distributing foreign "intelligence" against a candidate seems to be what your kind think is treason.

    Geez.
     
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    Pretty sure it was Jeb Bush who hired the Brit. But anyway, distributing foreign intelligence is not (a) what Trump Jr did (so far as we know now) and (b) not something Clinton did either (so far as we know now).

    So I still don't see your point.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...76c69081518_story.html?utm_term=.aee5da09bdfc

    At the time of the October agreement, FBI officials probing Russian activities, including possible contacts between Trump associates and Russian entities, were aware of the information that Steele had been gathering while working for a Washington research firm hired by supporters of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, according to the people familiar with the agreement. The firm was due to stop paying Steele as Election Day approached, but Steele felt his work was not done, these people said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...and-the-trump-dossier/?utm_term=.ff174d5b13f9

    This week’s revelations about Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer have shined a new spotlight on a small Washington opposition research firm that worked with her on a legal case for years and then subsequently commissioned a dossier full of salacious allegations of the Russian government’s attempts to collude with the Trump presidential campaign.

    The firm, Fusion GPS, will be one subject of a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing next week that was planned well before the story broke of Trump Jr.’s June 2016 meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. Fusion GPS says it had no involvement in the meeting although it did work on a lawsuit that involved Veselnitskaya for more than two years.

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    “Specifically, we have learned that the person who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the president and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier,” Corallo said in a statement.
     
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    Distributing foreign intelligence is what the Clinton campaign did. The dossier was developed by british and Russian spies.
     
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    Could be. I haven't seen that reported, but I'm not saying they didn't. In any case that's a different thing than what Trump has admitted to.

    Could be. I haven't seen reported that Russian Spies were involved, but maybe they were.

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    In any case, even if Hillary had done exactly what Trump Jr. did, doesn't your argument boil down to 'But she did it too!'?

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