The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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    Sorry, I worded that poorly. I mainly wanted to focus my thought on the first line. Should have stated that better than I did. I do agree he'd be worth moving to move Leonard. I quite like the other two.
     
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    He didn't score with Orlando, either.

    It's not like Nurk didn't come in and score 15.2 PPG with the same back court.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    When it comes to Mo, I'm pretty agnostic. I wouldn't give him away as a throw in in a trade, but I also wouldn't hesitate to trade him if we get value back in return.

    The pros: he's an average, to slightly below average, starting SF who is only 24 and on a reasonable contract. He doesn't suck on either side of the ball. He's pretty much average at both offense and defense, which makes him the closest thing we have to a 2-way player at the SF spot.

    The cons: he's been in the league for five seasons, has started over the half the games he's played, but hasn't really improved much since his rookie year. The only improvement of note was his 3-point shooting last season. He shot just below the league average 3FG%, but only made 68 3-pointers. That's not a huge sample size and I'm not sure it's sustainable. Remember - Aminu made a similar jump in 3FG% the previous year, but on a much larger sample size (126 made 3-pointers) and then backslid last season.

    I guess I just don't see where this untapped upside is. He hasn't been lacking for opportunities, either in ORL or POR. He has been a starter and played plenty of minutes in both places, but has never made any big leap forward in his play. At only 24, there could be some continued minor improvement, but I just don't see that he has the tools, or the attitude to become an above average 2-way starter.

    Which is what I really want at both forward spots - players who are above average on both sides of the ball. And, if we can get one of those I'd gladly move Harkless. Although average as a starter, he's worse coming off the bench. He seems to sulk when he isn't starting, and that's not a good thing.

    But, as I said, for now, he's an average, or nearly so, starter on a reasonable starter. You want him, sure, but you need to blow my skirt up with a trade offer that also makes my team better and doesn't just give you what YOU want.

    BNM
     
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    Yeah, if you can score you will score. No ones holding him back. That's lazy.
     
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    FWIW, Harkless' twitter feed has been cleared.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Ugh.....
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    As in deleted? Please 'splain.
     
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    Looks like all of the tweets have been deleted. Account still there.
     
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    Could've happened awhile ago though, I have no idea. But it's empty..
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    "Deal coming soon!!"
     
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    Looks to me like he scored .2 more points per 36, less assists, less rebounds, less FTA.

    I think the two years in a row of similar stats suggests he's basically the player he's going to be.

    I'm not at all saying he's a bad player. I'm just saying I think we can do better at SF - at least starting.

    ET is a couple inches shorter, but can do many of the same things as Mo, even better than Mo. Enough so that he's sufficient to replace Mo in the scheme of things here.

    82games.com says Crabbe played 43% of the Blazers' total minutes at SF. For lack of a deadeye 3pt shooter at the position. Mo did beat out Ed Davis for PF minutes (he played 37% of the team's minutes at SF, 17% at PF). But we just drafted two guys who should get burn at PF, a real position of need for us.
     
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    What does FWIW mean?
     
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    For what it's worth.


    And by cleared I mean his tweets have been deleted.
     
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    He was a rookie... And comparing Nurk's scoring to Hark's doesn't make sense. They score in different ways and it was completely obvious we needed post and pick and roll scoring. Apples/Oranges.
     
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    Been like that for a while
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    He played three seasons in ORL.

    FWIW, Plumlee also scored more points in slightly fewer minutes that Harkless.

    BNM
     
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    Find another SF that shoots 50%.
     
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