The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

Are you referring to HOU or LA as "that shit hole"? I was just in LA for the first time in a looooong time. I don't know if I just got lucky, or if people exaggerate the hell out of LA traffic - I suspect the former - but I was pleasantly surprised at LA traffic. I was never in stand-still gridlock like I encounter here...traffic was constantly moving. I went down expecting the worst, but from what I experienced I couldn't complain. I had to change my driving style, which was fine given that I was in a rental car. The only thing that was worse was the sprawl - it takes forever to get from place to place because everything is sooooooo spread out. But, I can spend 45 minutes driving 7 miles in Portland or 45 minutes driving 30 miles in LA. Again, I do think I probably got really lucky...but from my limited experience LA has the infrastructure to handle traffic and Portland does not.

 

Bones, whats with the sig? I want that shir,t but not at $700!!!!!

 

Not with Collins in the deal. There is no incentive here - Wade is a year or two from retirement.

Neil said that ZC was the only player in the lotto that they'd package picks for - definitely not a throw in for a declining player/salary dump.

 

It totally depends on the time and location . . . but, Portland can be as bad or worse on the main bottle-necks. You notice it more when you come from somewhere with no traffic. I'm lucky that I live NW of LA and rarely have to go into town.

 

Also, if we get Wade I want him to play next to Crabbe instead of Turner, because Wade struggles to shoot. That means sending out E.T. in the deal. Chicago could be willing to take on Turner's contract, as Turner is from there, they need a SF and a veteran presence, and we could compensate them. However, they have Markkanen and Portis as PFs of the future, so I don't see them being all that interested in Vonleh or Swanigan. At C, they only have Lopez and Felicio, so I think they would be high on Collins. A Markkanen/Collins frontcout could be absolutely dynamite for Chicago in the coming years, and they'd be a good fit for a PG in Dunn, as Dunn is a non-shooter.

If it takes less picks, I'd probably do it if it meant Carmelo coming to town. We'd be old but it would be an extremely fun year and a fun low risk gamble. It's low risk because we'd be able to shed salary and both Melo and Wade are expiring (Melo has a player option).

For as much as I like Collins, I think that I'd use him as compensation in order to swap Turner and Wade.[/QUOTE]

Too big of a possibility of losing too many picks for players who could walk in a years time.
Cap space is one thing, but I don't want to see Portland becoming the LAC 2.0

 

I would do that. Melo is still a good 3rd option on a team and having a 3x champion like Wade would be valuable to us around playoff time.

 

Trader bob would've made it happen by now

 

Too big of a possibility of losing too many picks for players who could walk in a years time.
Cap space is one thing, but I don't want to see Portland becoming the LAC 2.0[/QUOTE]

Too big of a possibility of losing too many picks for players who could walk in a years time.
Cap space is one thing, but I don't want to see Portland becoming the LAC 2.0[/QUOTE]
Would you do it if we didn't have to give up any picks?

Trade 1:
CHI Gets: Evan Turner, Zach Collins
POR Gets: Dwayne Wade

Trade 2:
NYK Gets: Harkless, Davis, Leonard, Napier
POR Gets: Anthony, O'Quinn

Lillard (35) / McCollum (13)
McCollum (22) / Wade (26)
Anthony (20) / Crabbe (25) / Wade (3)
Aminu (26) / Swanigan (12) / Anthony (10)
Nurkic (32) / O'Quinn (16) / Vonleh

 

I get where you are coming from, but that is a huge risk upfront to try and win next season. After that it tails off quickly.

I would rather take my chance a few years down the road when Nurk and ZCo start their window and Dame and CJ are are in the middle of their peak.

 

Makes too much sense. I think Wade would be fine playing 26-28mpg off the bench, conserving his health until playoff time. If not, I wouldn't mind starting Wade and Carmelo at the 2 and 3, and bringing CJ off the bench for 33-35 minutes per game.

 

No

 

I think Wade knows he isn't a starter on a good playoff team anymore. He's still valuable but is more suitable as an elite 6th man.

 

No. See my trade posts. These are aging vets that won't re-sign here. Wasting 1st rounder on them is stupid. Neither player is that good anymore - not enough to hang with GSW, and probably not good enough to hang with OKC or HOU. I do think it'd be a fun way to reduce salary and go all-in this season - but giving up draft picks for these has-beens would be dumb. You're WAY too quick to give away assets for crap.

 

Why in the holy fuck would we want to do that for 35 y/o wade for one year? Whatever youre smoking has gone to your head! its not 2008 anymore come back to reality

 

Can we just do that and end this shit now????? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

The farthest south I traveled was the south end of downtown. I suspect that much of the shit occurs south of downtown? I did drive during evening rush hour on a few occasions - but again downtown to Echo Park and Venice to EP. All in all, I had a very pleasant time down there!

 

Damn! I wasn't asking for enough!

 

Links. I don't believe you. 99.9% of your trades send out FAR too much.