The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

Wade has very little trade value. The Bulls would be lucky to get any kind of value for him at this stage of his career.

 

I don't think it's a risk at all. The only potentially good NBA player we'd lose in those two trades is Collins.

Plus, the savings. Crabbe will be tradeable next season.

There's 3 good scenarios that could play out in the summer of 2018.
From the best possible (and unrealistic) scenario to the least best (assuming Nurk has a cap hold and is waiting to be resigned)

1.) Melo and Wade like playing here together. We trade Crabbe and Aminu so that Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, Vonleh, and Swanigan are making $60M-ish. After a very competitive season, Melo and Wade are willing to resign for cheap, $7M contracts. That leaves around $30M in cap space. Lebron is a free agent, and looking at a group of Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and his buddies in Wade and Carmelo, Lebron decides to sign with Portland, giving us this:

Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / Wade
Lebron / Carmelo
Vonleh / Swanigan
Nurkic / Vet FA.

2.) Melo and Wade resigns for $15M a piece, putting us over the salary cap. We then make a sign-and-trade for a big time free agent (Crabbe, Aminu, and a pick), or trade Crabbe, Aminu, Swanigan, and future 1sts for a legit all-star.

3.) Melo and Wade leave, we resign Nurkic and sign cheap veteran pieces to replace Wade and Melo on 1 year deals. We'd have our sights set the summer of 2019, and using Crabbe's expiring deal along with pieces like Vonleh, Biggie, and future picks to trade (S&T) for an all-star.

Basically, I don't think you can go wrong by adding more talent, especially house-hold names, to a small-market team while also creating future flexibility and more options for building a contender down the road.

 

I'm not going to dive for it, but I'm telling the truth. Most fans are biased and thinks their team shouldn't have to give up as much as their team would realistically have to part with to make any kind of trade happen.

So I guess I'll try to find the middle ground where people have actual debates on both sides of certain ideas.

 

Wade does not have a lot of value right now. He's lame duck in Chicago. I they get any resources for him, they'll likely take them.

 

You really think we could get Wade and Melo for free? Are you out of your mind?

Wade has value if it helps us land Carmelo. Trading away Turner's albatross of a contract has value for us as well. That value equals trading away Collins to swap Turner for Wade, in order for Carmelo to want to come here. And I'm a huge Collins fan.

Take away the picks from the trade then. I think that's fair for both sides. Collins+ET for Wade... Harkless+Napier+Davis+Leonard for Carmelo+O'Quinn. Would you not do that?

 

The only reason I'd advocate getting him is I think he'd be the difference between Carmelo being a Blazer or not. Basically, getting Wade would mean we'd be able to get a good player without giving up anything valuable in terms of assets. I wouldn't trade Turner and Collins for Wade if Carmelo would still decide not to come to Portland. I just think that one of his best friends plus our overall talent would be a tipping point.

 

I have a great idea let's always take simple trades and see how unrealistically complicated we can make it.

 

Clutchfans is a joy to read at the moment.

It warms my cold black heart.

 

No way in hell, I bring wades old ass here too. Melon is even pushing it.

 

Butters is in LA! Maybe he's meeting and talking with..... No. Nah, that doesn't work at all....

 

He's down there trying to get a shoe endorsement deal with L.A. Gear. Be on the lookout for the new Air Biebs.

 

I can't believe those clowns don't think CJ is worthy of being considered part of a "big 3" or that he's not a star.

This isn't against scrubs, that's 3 really good defensive players.



I'm willing to bet there are 0 highlights of Harden schooling 3 well above average defenders like this...

 

Just a thought, maybe Dame is in LA before going to Vegas to rep the team.

 

I've explained why numerous times...

To shed Turners contract and to get Melo.

 

For essentially 2 first round picks + turner -- yeah, that's a dumbass move I bet that's probably why youve had to explain yourself to the rest of the rational world.

 

Getting noticeably better isn't a simple process. If Melo didn't have a NTC, some mediocre team would give yo way too much. Since he does have one, he can be had for cheap by any team he wants to go to. The trick is to get him to want to come here.

It's a complicated situation.

 

If Melo wants to come here right now, I wouldn't trade ET+Collins for Wade.

 

You're looking at it without context. I would do that move if it meant Melo would waive his NTC for us, because we'd have to trade so little to get Melo, and in the end, giving up a little too much for Wade is fine of we barely have to give up anything for Melo.

You're calling yourself rational but you're failing to look at the context of my statements. Be better.

 

We all know the damn context Youre still trading first round picks for D-wade that is not rational

 

Be better at making trade scenarios