Carmelo Anthony: yes or no?

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Trade for Carmelo?

  1. Hell yes - I'd give up Lillard for him!

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  2. Sure, so long as we're not giving up Lillard, McCollum or Nurkic

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  3. Sure, so long as we dump one of our big contracts (Crabbe or Turner)

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  4. Sure, but only if we get rid of Leonard in the process

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  5. Hell no, he's a cancer

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  1. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    Do you really want to see that man's father being interviewed by Hurd & Calaboro?
     
  2. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Why would Cleveland replace Love with Melo? Melo only makes sense if they are getting him on top of Love. That's why they haven't really been in the discussion imo.
     
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    chzbrgr Well-Known Member

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    They are not willing to make this swap
     
  4. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    If the Cavs were willing to trade Kevin Love for Carmelo, don't you think the Knicks would make that trade themselves? Why involve the Blazers at all?
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Because Love presents the same problem. Porzingis is the future and he plays the same position as Love. Plus Love is 28 years old (almost 29).
     
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    Sure, that's better. But I still think I'd rather hold our assets for a better trade that hasn't become available yet. Love, while better than Melo, poses a lot of the same problems:
    Strengthens PF offense but...
    • Weakens PF defense.
    • Weakens SF defense.
    • Weakens SF offense.
    And he actually makes the SF/PF balance worse than Melo would. Ideally I'd play Melo at PF, but he can at least slide between SF/PF - Love can't play any SF. By trading Harkless+ for Love we now have the following at SF:

    Tuner - undersized, underskilled
    Aminu - underskilled

    Meanwhile, assuming it's Harkless/Meyers that we trade out, we now have the following capable of playing PF:

    Love - no defense
    Vonleh - good defense, decent offense when left wide open but otherwise nonexistent
    Aminu - mediocre defense, awful offense except sometimes when left wide open
    Collins - needs minutes
    Swanigan - needs minutes
    Davis - needs to be traded

    Because NYK aren't getting any offers of substance for Melo, and because of what I've just outlined, our out-going trade pieces should only consist of:
    • Turner or Crabbe
    • Aminu or Davis
    • 2nd round picks
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    True, but 28 is much younger than Carmelo and Love has more trade value for a future move than Harkless.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    We have to give up more than that, because NYK would be better off keeping him than taking that package.
     
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    If that's true, then NYK will keep him. Because they aren't getting a better offer. Why should we outbid ourselves?
     
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    I bet they would get a better offer than that. But not better than Harkless and Vonleh.
     
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    If I am NY I keep him. Assume he will opt out next year and use the cap space.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    With that logic we'll never make another trade ever again.
     
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    Maybe Jake and Pat - Crabbe is not a SF.
     
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    You just don't want him in Portland.
     
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    The logic applies to THIS trade because what we're getting back sucks. If what you're getting back is good, then obviously you make a better offer.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Carmelo sucks? What?
     
  18. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    As far as age, potential, team control, offensive efficiency, and contributions to his team's success this past year--as compared with Harkless (whom @blue9 is basically saying we shouldn't be willing to give up in exchange for him), yes, he does.
     
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  19. blue9

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    A past-his-prime player, who was never great defensively, who is on the last year of his deal and doesn't want to be here is what sucks. It's not just about the player - there are other things that must be taken into consideration.
     
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    Thank you! I don't know why the finer details are so often ignored.
     

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