Politics Transgender in the military

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by SlyPokerDog, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,750
    Likes Received:
    55,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I didn't get along with PapaG because of his propensity to constantly bring up the past in arguments that had no relevance whatsoever.

    So I'm not surprised that this would remind you of PapaG, because you're doing the same thing right now.
     
  2. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    I don't think anything about me and the VA is your business.
     
  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    PAPA G REMINDED YOU TOO MUCH ABOUT YOURSELF BRO
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,750
    Likes Received:
    55,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Aha! Now he's starting to get it!
     
    BlazerCaravan likes this.
  5. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    No, but I am not about to show you why.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,750
    Likes Received:
    55,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Let me give you an example of an interaction with PapaG:

    Me: *argument about something Blazers related*

    PapaG: You were a shitty writer!

    ~End Scene~

    But hey, I guess if you want to admire the dude, be my guest. I put up with his shit for YEARS. I never banned him for my interactions with him. I'm not afraid to argue with someone. I didn't abuse my mod powers when I was a mod. The only time I used my banning privileges were from interactions that did not involve me.
     
    BlazerCaravan and EL PRESIDENTE like this.
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,750
    Likes Received:
    55,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    And Marazul has successfully shifted the argument away from the topic and made it about me.

    This is the kind of shit that annoys the hell out of me.

    If you want to attack my opinions, be my guest. If you don't care for the way that I debate, tough shit. I don't care. Feel free not to debate me if it bothers you.
     
    BlazerCaravan likes this.
  8. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Messages:
    8,319
    Likes Received:
    1,885
    Trophy Points:
    113


    Okay, now that was funny.

    And, hell no. I am not basing my beliefs upon you. At my age I have known a lot of people that now identify other that their given sex.

    I served with guys that were gay, good soldiers, they did their job, nobody cared. Special flower or could not cut it, they were removed.

    Frankly, I can not think of one trans person that I have ever met, that when they came out, were not an emotional mess. It has to be hard, as you have stated before. I feel zero condemnation, it only makes me feel more fortunate that for all I have been through, that is something I have never had to question.
     
    Shaboid and bodyman5000 and 1 like this.
  9. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    Easy!

    I can tell you can't do more.
     
  10. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    122,840
    Likes Received:
    122,834
    Trophy Points:
    115
    Keep spinning and failing, you'll eventually get there.
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,750
    Likes Received:
    55,381
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    You have been dancing and dodging and weaving all through this thread.

    Answering questions with questions.

    Not responding when I address your point.

    So when I see someone who clearly doesn't care about debating the topic, and just wants to stick to their close-minded point of view, I'm going to call it like I see it. I see someone who is stuck in the past. Plain and simple.

    Keep dancing though.
     
  12. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    122,840
    Likes Received:
    122,834
    Trophy Points:
    115
    See, you just proved my point.

    Thank you.
     
    Natebishop3 likes this.
  13. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Oh
    Apropos of nothing...

    I think people who don't write clear paragraphs making smartass comments to people who misunderstood them are just terrible people.

    As to you, that isn't what you said. Which would be a stupid comment anyway unless trans soldiers are less prone to suffer PTSD.
     
  14. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    28,071
    Likes Received:
    10,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Apropos of nothing I already know I'm a terrible person because I post here!
     
    bodyman5000 and 1 likes this.
  15. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    If you read it correctly it says the generals downing boner pills and suffering PTSD is their problem. You could make the case that it includes the generals and the non trans soldiers as one group.

    Take out the blue part.
     
  16. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    28,071
    Likes Received:
    10,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    *edits original post*

    Fake news! It's a witch hunt!

    Wringing their hands about trans soldiers is their problem.
     
  17. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Messages:
    8,319
    Likes Received:
    1,885
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Hold on now, are you saying the you are terrible for posting here, or that you are made aware of being terrible by posting here? lol
     
    BlazerCaravan likes this.
  18. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    28,071
    Likes Received:
    10,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why not both? :ghoti:
     
    DaLincolnJones likes this.
  19. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Someone linked something that said 45 percent of them already tried suicide.

    Would they be less likely to kill themselves if no barrier like this existed legally or via public reaction to them? That's a tough question to phrase properly? That one study I read said discrimination and harassment from others was their worst symptom.
     
    BlazerCaravan likes this.
  20. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    28,071
    Likes Received:
    10,384
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trans people who are shown support by family members have a suicide rate comparable to the rest of society. It's when they are shunned that the rate skyrockets.
     

Share This Page