If a criminal was robbing a store you were in, would you call customer service, or would you call the police? If there was a homeless person digging cans out of your apartment dumpster, would you call the police, or the local homeless shelter? If there was house fire, would you ask the police to take care of it, or the fire department? But yeah....keep making cracks about the police. That certainly helps your argument. Maturity isn't something Liberals are known for, that much is certain. Obviously you haven't, or it wouldn't have been an issue. And special or extreme circumstances notwithstanding, the purpose of the Military SHOULD primarily be for war. That is the very nature of their existence. After all....we didn't defeat the Redcoats with pillows and kind words. Finally! Someone with a decent goddamn answer instead of sarcastic one-liners. There's hope for this forum after all!
So you agree with me that saying the ONLY purpose of the US military is war is not accurate? Because that is what that article said, that's what I said is BS. That's what others are disagreeing with me about. Only purpose.
Of course I agree with you. As I made clear, I was stating MY OPINION that the PRIMARY PURPOSE of the military SHOULD be for war and defense of the homeland. Not humanitarian aid. There are plenty of civilian organizations whom, with funding from their respective governments, would be better suited to giving humanitarian aid, rather than the military. And that is MY personal opinion. I will say this though: when it comes to giving humanitarian aid, you can't get much better than responding with an entire Nimitz-class aircraft carrier.
Depends on if I want him alive or dead. http://thefreethoughtproject.com/lapd-cops-kill-homeless-man/ http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-venice-shooting-20160412-story.html http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/01/sacramento-cops-shoot-and-kills-homeless http://nypost.com/2015/03/02/los-angeles-cops-fatally-shoot-a-homeless-man/
Just one more, then I'll be quiet. http://reason.com/blog/2013/11/07/never-call-the-cops-unless-you-want-some
The military is primarily a peace keeping force....war is an unfortunate side effect of peace keeping...we have military so that other militaries back the fuck off...hence....peace keeping
Wild out-of-control teen steals a truck and leads police on a pursuit, refuses officers lawful orders, and rams a police car. Not helping your case here. But yeah, keep hating those evil, smelly police.
River, with respect, I believe "peace-keeping" is the language of politicians, not soldiers. Because let's be honest: the US military is a giant stick. I don't carry a gun as a tool of peace. I carry it as a tool of defense.
Did you think my case and Sly's were the same because we don't help Bannon suck his own cock? I actually kind of agree with you that the army's first job is usually war; we send them in to serve defensive interests. Though, their second, third, and fourth jobs in the same location are usually humanitarian, civil engineering, or some combination of the two. My grandfather did a second year-long tour in 1946 de-fusing the depth charges in the Yangtze River; it's how he lost hearing in his left ear (and apparently gained a temporary "overseas wife" and I may have an uncle in China? Anyway...)
Transgenders..... I'm 100% behind LBGT rights but the trans issue ....is an issue. Their bone structure is still male. Joe Rogan makes a great point on this very subject about their roles in his area of expertise - fightning. No matter how much spironolactone they take they still have the male bone/muscle structure. I once made the 'mistake' of calling a "Mrs" a Mr at Best Buy a few years ago. Clearly the dude was a dude with makeup on. Meh, I guess it's a complex issue. But I'm going to call a spade ....a spade.
Wouldn't that be a good thing for the military? Or at least a non-issue? (points of clarification: spiro is only the testosterone blocker; trans women also take estradiol.)
...............what? What the hell are you talking about now? This thread has now gone from Transgenders in the military, to hating the police......and now something about you and Bannon's cock? What the hell is your issue? Or are you just looking for another excuse to turn this into yet another pointless Conservative bashing thread like the countless others in the OT? Because if that's the case, then it's your loss, not mine. Unless there's an actual topic you want to debate. Because personally, I've got better things to do than read such whiny drivel. Now....getting back on topic.....somewhat.... Speaking only for myself, it's pretty simple: penis = Male. Vagina = Female. I'm all for treating people respectfully with how they wish to be addressed. But special treatments? Nope. Maybe it happens, but I've yet to hear of a case of a transgendered person (man to woman) having their penis and testes removed, and a vagina formed through surgical means. If that happens, then I could consider that person a woman; sure. I don't know if it happens that way or not though. In regards to the military, what many in this thread are not taking into account is that transgendered people DO have to be given special treatment to an extent in the military. A transgendered man cannot shower or bunk with women, and vise-versa. So are they comfortable sleeping or showering with those of the "opposite" gender? And that's just one issue. Imagine what it's like for sailors on 8-month deployments out at sea. The military neither has the time, patience, or the priority to give special treatment to such cases, nor do they want to deal with the legal nightmare of screwing something of this nature up. If transgendered folks can serve in the military without being a burden (financially or strategically) to the tax payers or their comrades, and without being given special treatments, then I support it 100%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_surgery It does happen; the woman veteran I talked about before had the full meal deal done, "top" and "bottom" surgery, as it's colloquially called. A lot of folks do it, but not everyone. The rest of your opinions on the subject are worthless trash, except for the basic concept that you're okay with trans people serving if they aren't an undue burden. Your definition of undue burden is garbage, but at least you're on the right track. As for the rest of what I've been talking about, I decided that if you guys can post your shitty-ass opinions about me and my people, I can post shitty-ass opinions about things too. I'm tired of playing nice and being good to somehow maintain the respect of people who view me as less than human. Fuck them, and fuck that. I'm staying as long as I can, and I'm going to be louder and more obnoxious than the people who spout bullshit like they have the fucking moral high ground over me.
So my opinion is trash because I believe that those who go into the military to serve their country shouldn't be a burden to the country they're serving? Okay. I can live with that, thank you. But hey....you believe in taxing anyone who's successful at 100% and having the government take their earned property. So fuck you too.
Not at all; that opinion actually isn't trash! It was actually kind of humane. Your definition of burden is trash, that's all.
My definition of "burden" is special treatments given while enlisted, such as $100,000 surgeries for a new gender (which is not a NEED), and special privileges given by the military to accommodate your new gender, such as a separate bathroom and dorm. No other soldier gets special accommodations when they sign up, so why should you? And if you feel that you NEED a new gender in order to survive, and you instead choose to go into the military, then you need to reevaluate your priorities in life.
this line caused a question to come to my mind, and I apologize if it comes off as disrespectful, but I've got to ask. How does the trans community view the notion of species dysphoria in relation to gender dysphoria? Is the former considered less valid than the latter? Or is someone who legitimately self-identifies as a dog to be treated and accepted as such comparably to how you are to be as a woman?
