There are pills you can take coloquially called "puberty blockers" or "puberty delayers". Basically, you take them, and they prevent all that testosterone or estrogen from flooding into your system in puberty; it just doesn't happen until you stop taking them. You get older, but you don't go through puberty. Doctors will prescribe these for trans kids (mostly trans women) who want more time to decide how they want to express their gender, and to get to a point where they can properly consent to permanent physical changes to their body. Since the body is going to do its number on you at ages 13-18, by the time you're legally able to consent, you've already had permanent changes done to your body (lower voice, body hair, wider shoulders, taller, etc.) by the hormones. The blockers help even the playing field so that you can consent first, and make the informed decision as a legal adult.
I don't have any problem telling who's trans and who's not. Big hands and an adam's apple are giveaways. Again, it doesn't bother me in the least. What I wrote in BC's coming out thread is only common sense. The person is the same person you knew and loved yesterday before you knew about them being gay or wanting a sex change or whatever. They're the same person tomorrow, too. This new knowledge about the person doesn't change who they are. Society has put real hardship on these people for far too long. That they suffer verbal and physical attacks is more than sufficient evidence of this hardship. I don't see the value in continuing the stigma or making things any tougher on these folks who just want to pursue happiness. This last bit is my only concern for LGBT in the military. You've got absolute morons with guns and people they hate for no good reason, to potentially shoot at or inappropriately haze. I see some merit in (some of) the military's argument. Boot camp/basic training/whatever involves a large element of brainwashing. The drill sergeant and various regulations are designed to build a bond among the recruits, that they'd throw themselves on a grenade to save the rest. The techniques are brutal and not politically correct (nor should they be). The military shouldn't have to change this for some social agenda reason.
Very good barf. And I want to know all I need to know. I remember a fella I transferred in on a good recommendation and I thought all was going well. But one day, one of my lead guys came and told me the newby was not getting it done. So I called him in for a little talk. He soon got to the point of telling me things, I suppose he forgot to check to see if I was an asshole. Anyway, he offered up an excuse for not getting his work done; It seems, his girl friend was his wifes best friend and it was causing him some anxiety. Sleepless it seems. I cut it short at that point and call the guys manager. We put him on the measured mile, but he didn't take the opportunity to straighten shit up. Fired him about 6 weeks later.
Btw. My response above to barf has nothing to do with this thread. It just gave me a chuckle to share it with him.
uh, how the heck do you know you are a "trans women" when you are still a child that has not went through puberty yet? Quite possibly, never heard the term.
A lot of trans people know as early as age 4 what their gender is. Imagine a sandwich... (if you read that post, it explains the difference in "shape" between your gender and the way society makes you express your gender if they think its different). Folks like me who don't put it together until later are the exception, not the rule.
Well you basically are recommending the person be neutered through their growth period. Someone needs to make that decision. Who? I can't see many fathers doing that to their son. Probably no Grandfathers supporting them. How does this happen?
The parents, the child, the endocrinologist, the pediatrician, and the child's therapist make the decision together, based on the child's desire and need to express a gender (and importantly not express the gender opposite their identified gender). You're right, not every parent is accepting of this. When there's no acceptance, the children have a suicide attempt rate of about 45%. When there is acceptance, the suicide attempt rate is pretty much normal. I bet that, if the parents talk with their child's pediatrician, this statistic is noted, so it's ultimately up to the parents which they would rather deal with. It's important to note that, if the child stops taking the blockers, they start puberty as normal with no ill effects.
Some folks do naturally; I knew a kid in HS who was 5'3" his senior year, but at the 5 year reunion was 6'1". 18 isn't bad to start puberty.
I don't even remember anything from when I was 4 yet you are saying kids up to 4 years old just know what they wanna be? I don't care if anybody wants to act as if they are a man or woman, whatever but people aren't understanding in todays world just how important brain development is in a child. People jump the gun all the time on these things. "our child can't sit still, must have ADD". No, your kid is just being a kid. Fuck it though just give him/her ritalin.
Where I have trouble with this is the use of an obvious extreme. How do you reconcile your opinion when so many young men are playing sport at a high level or even turning pro at 18?
They know what they are. Big difference. https://www.healthychildren.org/Eng...dentity-and-Gender-Confusion-In-Children.aspx The thing is, nobody is saying "Johnny said he was a girl once when he was four so we're railroading her into being a girl forever!" This is a thing that is expressed by the child consistently and constantly, not just once.
