Politics Google employee writes memo stating Google is anti-diversity of thoughts/political ideas

Google sounds racist, and sexist.

 

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19464/fake-news-4-things-google-manifesto-doesnt-say-ben-shapiro#

I'm not the biggest fan of Ben Shapiro, and I didn't agree with a lot of what the Google guy says, but I thought this was interesting.

 

I bet you love affirmative action though!

 

See that's the problem, and what I take offense to.
What gives you, myself or anyone else the right to determine the damage done by mocking, stereotyping, etc?

I understand what you're saying, but because you're not saying it well. It certainly sounds like you're minimizing others. Which frankly is offensive.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think I'm stating it fine. Every individual has the capacity to be hurt personally by mockery or stereotypes but some groups of people, based on their history and level of power in the society, have the capacity to also be hurt on a societal level. That added layer of risk or danger makes stereotyping or prejudice towards them significantly more problematic.

What gives me the right to make that determination? The same right anyone else has to observe the world and form opinions. I'm always willing to change my viewpoints if I run across compelling evidence or arguments, but the idea that different individuals can be hurt differently on a personal level by abuse isn't something I hadn't already considered.

 

SlyPokerDog is ashamed to be a man.

 

Everyone has the capacity to be hurt on a societal level. As society is also social interaction. Mocking someone or stereotyping someone can effect white, black, brown, yellow, green people the same. Just because one could also be effected with jail time(poor example simply because you can be jailed in your own mind with mocking or stereotyping) more than another doesn't mean it's more problematic.

No one has the right to make a determination on how mocking or stereotyping effects another person. Not even psychologists would make that determination. They'd listen and observe. Not assume. As there is no one fix for all.

Sorry but you're wrong, and it's offensive.

 

women are more neurotic.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/22/women-men-mental-illness-study

 

"you're wrong, and it's offensive"

do some of you read what you type sometimes? hey man I am right and you are just wrong. What are you two even going on about? you are making the subject way more complex than it needs to be

 

But you're talking about an individual effect, not a societal effect. You're not at risk of white males being marginalized in society or in your field (except, perhaps, in very very rare exceptions when it comes to field). Women individually face all the risks that you do, plus they face the risk of stereotypes and prejudice reducing opportunities for all women, across essentially all levels of society. Men don't face that risk. That was my point and why I think stereotypes and prejudices are significantly more damaging when aimed at the minority (and women) as opposed to the majority.

 

No I am not saying you are a liberal but come on be better than that. Saying you have it better than women? you are just shorting yourself believing this. Women hold a lot of power these days. I am just saying the wage gap is a myth people love to push and it's dangerous to repeat as if it's truth. Men work higher paying jobs, it's simple. People however, run around and say it's because everybody is sexist and it's a bunch of bullshit. It implies men and women are working the same job and earning different amounts. It's not true. If a man and a woman started the same job at mcdonalds right now, they earn the same thing.

 

I think it was extremely wrong this guy was fired by the way. He worded what he said really well and was factually correct on a lot of what he said. However in this day and age if you aren't full on board the progressive bullshit train, then you're fired. You're out. Dangerous times in America

 

Yes, I know you think I'm wrong. That's why I suggested earlier that we agree to disagree, because I don't think I'm wrong and neither of us is convincing the other. Continuing to restate our positions isn't going to change anything.

 

Well, Google Hangouts is down...

 

You're owned this thread as far as I can tell.

Everyone wants people fired for everything now.

My wife has about 100 employees, she has a long standing reputation of being extremely fair. Why? Because before she fires someone she tells me what they did. First thing I ask is if this employee is generally on her good side or bad. If bad I ask her if she'd fire one of her favorites for the same thing.

If she says no I tell her she has to be fair.

You might or might not be surprised at some of the discrimination that went on at her former employer. Some managers wouldn't promote gay guys, some wouldn't let more than two black girls work in a store at the same time.

My wife is as close to a merit based employer as I think you'll find.

It's quite amazing really, all of you think I'm probably as racist as they come but the wife and I do what we think is fair.

We say "life ain't fair but we'll do our best"

I really do like people winning on merit. That's why I hate sports with judges.

 

That kid probably has more degrees than you have IQ points.

He most likely wanted to get fired for the memo. He realized he wasn't going to advance his career in a racist/sexist company like google, that overtly discriminates against white men.

Probably while he was sitting in a mandatory google class, learning how to stop mansplaining. While females, and humans with more pigment than him, we're attending classes and training that would further their careeer with google.

I'm sure he knew he wasn't going to convince a bunch of racist/sexist fucks, that disqualifying someone for a job because of their skin color, or sex, is wrong.