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My whole point is we see this happen with women and men now too. We have come SO far in terms of race and sex. The problem is when we start to reach that equality, the other side always goes "hey, that's not enough". It's become a power grab. Women and men are pretty damn equal these days, yeah both sides still have flaws in areas in terms of society and how each are treated but I can't name something a woman can't do that a man can these days in terms of society, etc. Now you see the power grab in that department. Modern day feminists which are the worst kind continue to complain and I am afraid no matter what they always will no matter how good it gets. Now I don't know about you but I think we have made so much progress in race too. To the point it has also become about control and power. We just had a black president for 8 years, there are a lot of black people in bigger positions of power and you can't argue that. I am not saying racism is completely gone but once again I can't name something a black person can do that a white person can't in society. I see a lot of black millionaires when I am watching basketball. A lot of rich black athletes who people love. I see white people attending rappers concerts, almost all white people yet people wanna scream that whites are racist and can't have an opinion on race. That in itself is racist. I just think no matter what dudes like dviss will continue to use it as an excuse. I think it's something that some black people do. If they don't succeed it's easy to blame the white man. It's easy to say that you are a victim. Notice now that's what other people say as an excuse for their short comings. excuses and reasons why they aren't where they are. Especially in Portland, this behavior is a problem. Plenty of black people didn't have excuses and reached their goal, became successful. Literally came from nothing in the worst environments. It's like people also forget there is something called middle America and it's filled with a bunch of poor white people. Go talk to them about white privilege when they are working some of the hardest jobs, multiple jobs. There are no damn hand outs in this life. You go and get what you wanna get no matter what race you are.

 

No matter what we aren't gonna agree on it, like I said people have different opinions, doesn't mean I dislike you dviss but don't sit and say that I can't have an opinion on it because of my skin color. That in itself is racist if you really wanna break it down.

 

Take him at his word?

 

I didn't say you couldn't have an opinion on it. What I said was your opinion would not be an informed one...

 

I think it's informed but once again, your opinion that mine isn't informed is just that. An opinion

 

When you say shit like there's equality in America, I'd say your opinion isn't informed and that you're seeing things through extremely rose colored glasses.

The stop and frisk data alone proves equality doesn't exist in this country.

 

I would say we are pretty damn close to equality. I never denied racism still exists in America. It does. However, to deny that we have made SO much progress would be ignorant. Obama just held the presidential position for 8 years. There are a lot of black people in positions of power. I just personally think no matter what, it will never be enough for certain black people who love to just constantly talk about the negatives and bring up slavery. How long are we gonna hold onto that? that's partially what helps keep racism alive

 

Ever been to NY? I have. Can you get a taxi there? I can't..... Equality my ass.

Again, the stop and frisk data speaks for itself.

In 2013, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 191,851 times.
169,252 were totally innocent (88 percent).
104,958 were black (56 percent).
55,191 were Latino (29 percent).
20,877 were white (11 percent).

If 88% of the people are innocent, why were only 11% of the searched white? The reason why they were stopped and had their 4th amendment rights violated is because they "looked suspicious".

What made the Blacks and Latinos more "suspicious"? Why were their areas of residence more heavily policed?

 

I know about the stop and frisk thing they did in new york. How do you figure you couldn't get a taxi just because you are black? new york is a super progressive city so I don't know, maybe you just thought that. The stop and frisk thing was racial profiling. That's for sure. Wasn't really my point out of everything though. I mean once again you are going back in time to 2013 when stop and frisk isn't a thing anymore and it's 2017

 

See, you don't have an informed opinion.

If white people know this, how come you don't?

Taxis simply don't stop for us when we hail them.

Even while being a "super progressive" city, they still shook down black people and violated their 4th amendment rights at an astronomical level.
2013 was just 4 years ago man... You're acting like it's ancient history... Here's the numbers since they stopped the policy:

• In 2014, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 45,787 times.
  37,744 were totally innocent (82 percent).
  24,319 were black (53 percent).
  12,489 were Latino (27 percent).
  5,467 were white (12 percent).
• In 2015, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 22,565 times.
  18,353 were totally innocent (80 percent).
  12,223 were black (54 percent).
  6,598 were Latino (29 percent).
  2,567 were white (11 percent).
• In 2016, New Yorkers were stoppped by the police 12,404 times.
  9,394 were totally innocent (76 percent).
  6,498 were black (52 percent).
  3,626 were Latino (29 percent).
  1,270 were white (10 percent).
• In the first quarter of 2017, New Yorkers were stoppped by the police 2,862 times.
  1,892 were totally innocent (66 percent).
  1,618 were black (57 percent).
  916 were Latino (32 percent).
  252 were white (9 percent).

Why are whites less apt to be stopped? Because their areas of residence aren't NEARLY as policed as ours.

This.

Is.

Not.

Equality.

 

I am uninformed because you think a taxi wouldn't take you anywhere because you are black? in new york city, a hectic ass place? okay. sure. I just said the stop and frisk was in fact racial profiling but guess what? it doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, that was 4 years ago man, once again the past isn't the present and everything race related, the past always gets brought up. The shit doesn't exist anymore

 

Did you read the story or not? If you didn't, you are still using your uninformed opinion and making shit up as you go. Hectic ass place.... Jesus...

 

Jesus... Look at the percentages of stops.

Why are Black areas more heavily policed?

Why are there a such thing as black areas?

I'm done now man... You're just trying to speak and not listen. A problem with most white people who don't understand their privilege.

 

lol jesus christ SlyPokerDog is delusional.

 

Did you read the story or not....?

 

I didn't because I already knew about the whole stop and frisk thing. I already knew about the fact the majority of people stopped were of color, holy fuck

 

As a black man, it’s hard to catch a cab. And my research shows even white people know that.

Fresh out of college, like so many bright-eyed young folks with big ideas about changing the world, I came to Washington. And like so many of us in the early ‘90s who arrived in the nation’s capital hoping to jump into politics, my first paying gig was actually a job waiting tables in an upscale Washington Harbor eatery where, fortunately, you could (and still can) make pretty good money.

My shifts, though, routinely ended after midnight—well after normal city bus service hours at the time—and I’d often leave work with a pocket full of cash. I had to get from Georgetown, where Metro rail service is nonexistent, back home to my basement rental in South East Washington. If I could have hailed a cab, that would have solved my problem.

But generally speaking, I couldn’t.

To be clear, plenty of cabs were still running at that hour, and for my white colleagues, catching one usually wasn’t an issue. But for me, a 20-something, skinny black kid with a high-top fade (remember, we’re talking early ‘90s here) it wasn’t a trivial matter.

Taxis at the harbor would, time and again, blatantly swerve around me to pick up white patrons, or my white colleagues. I came face to face with overt discrimination in a way that, even as a child of the South, I frankly had never experienced in such a direct way.

For me, and too many Americans, particularly minorities in urban areas, it’s one of any number of situations where we routinely, almost mundanely, face inequity and discrimination. Hailing cabs isn’t a matter of life and death, but it can negatively impact our overall quality of life, both economically and emotionally.

So what’s changed for me? I’m not a waiter anymore—I’m a pollster.

And now, to go along with these anecdotes, which so many African Americans regularly discuss amongst ourselves—and which are sometimes dismissed in the mainstream as isolated incidents—there’s hard data. You know how black people always say they can’t get a cab? Well, my firm just conducted a study in one of the largest major urban centers for African Americans in the country, Chicago, and we’ve quantified the discriminatory differences in our report, “Hailing While Black.” The report was commissioned by Uber. Some of our findings didn’t surprise me. How could they have? But to my surprise, unlike so many other racial issues, on this issue we found very little bifurcation between the white and black community, with even a plurality of white Chicagoans acknowledging that African Americans are discriminated against in cab service.

Sixty-six percent, or just about two-thirds of African Americans in Chicago agree that the city’s taxi drivers deliberately discriminate against them. A similar majority, 62 percent, of African Americans say low-income and minority neighborhoods are most likely to experience poor service, including being refused service. A 48 percent plurality of African Americans say it’s likely that if they tried hailing a cab, the taxi would ignore them and continue driving. By contrast, only 23 percent of whites say it’s likely that they would be ignored by a cab. And 41 percent of African Americans in Chicago report that they have often experienced a taxi service refusal to send a cab to their community.

We’ve seen reports in the past—like this 2009 ABC News analysis—that illustrate the issue; and what my firm, Brilliant Corners, has tried to do, is apply our methodology to quantify how the pervasiveness of the “Hailing While Black” obstacle is viewed.

One of our findings was that while typically, claims of discrimination result in significant disparities in perceptions between whites and minorities, on the cab-hailing issue, both groups tended to hold similar views. A majority of whites, 55 percent, also said poor and minority communities are most likely to be poorly served. And 47 percent, or nearly half of white respondents, agreed Chicago taxi drivers deliberately discriminate against black customers.

That stands in contrast to controversial issues ranging from criminal justice to Obamacare where whites and blacks tend not to see eye to eye.

Why don’t the data reflect this more typical disparity? Perhaps it’s a matter of this type of scenario—an African American standing on the sidewalk hailing a cab—being more visible to the typical observer. No doubt the spectacle of witnessing taxis swerve around a black patron in favor of white patrons is too unmistakable to be ignored. Or maybe too many white city-dwellers have had to assist their African American friends and colleagues by serving as a decoy taxi patron, hailing down a cab while their African American counterparts wait in the background until a driver pulls over to the curb. In any event, the fact that the traditional split of perspective hasn’t occurred means many more citizens perceive the inequities, which means a larger pool of potential supporters for policies that address the problem.

And this isn’t just academic. As the political debate over this element of the sharing economy rages—with sides being drawn between the legacy taxicab industry and new-school providers like Uber—all sides would be wise to recognize the racial component. Price and convenience clearly aren’t the only issues at play.

Discrimination on the streets, and specifically in black communities, is part of daily life for far too many African Americans. It immediately impacted how I had to navigate my world. It came with a financial cost when I had limited resources. It was demeaning and embarrassing, and yet, to this day, I can’t fully explain why I was the one who was embarrassed by drivers discriminating against me. It’s an odd thing how the targets of discrimination so often feel ashamed by the ill-treatment of others.

While we’ve yet to produce our next survey, it’s fair to say—even based on personal experience—that Chicago isn’t an outlier. Discrimination persists, and the transportation sector is no exception.

 

The story is above. It's not about stop and frisk. Here's video since you don't believe. Again you really have no clue. A cab would always stop for you...

 

You will never get it @Cippy91

Start hanging around your black friends more. Like, a lot. Maybe you'll see then. Do you even have Black friends?