Politics Grand jury subpoenas issued in FBI's Russia investigation

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  1. Denny Crane

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    Having a business there is business.

    I can see the logic now.

    Russia: "Sorry Donald, but we're not going to let you build here."
    Trump: "It's OK, I have interests all over the world."
    Russia: "But in exchange for this great favor you're doing for us, we'll slant the election your way."

    :crazy:

    EDIT: My bad. Minstrel, as if on cue, gave us this bad logic in his post above.

    If Trump DID get his hotel built there due to some favor, there might be even a hint of something of interest.
     
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    We'll see how it all shakes out. Now the investigative unit of the IRS is looking into Trump.
     
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    All this investigation and nothing. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.

    It looks like they're leaving no stone unturned in their fishing expedition.

    If they found something, they'd already release it. After all, the nation and its leadership is at stake.
     
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    I would have to agree. People don't understand this whole Russia thing has been created, people really buy it. It's no different than the Obama birth certificate thing. It's all bullshit. I mean come on we are 8 months into when the Russia shit started and nothing conclusive has come out. It's just crazy people still run with it. It's just easier for people to believe Trump won because some Russians hacked the machines for whatever reason. People just wont accept it
     
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    Too late for that now...it's damage control time
     
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    This is where you pretend to know shit that you have no access to.........you absolutely do not know what they have or are looking at...if there were nothing at all....then there'd be no investigation...it'd have been capped off quickly...what we do know and apparently doesn't bother you is that Trump lied about Russia....said he might have unknowingly sold a few condos to Russians....he sells lots of condos...that's just not true....he knows it...why don't you? If it were just business as usual...he'd have admitted it in detail and it would have gone away....problem here is he doesn't tell the truth....and according to you, that's fine if Trump does it but not if the NYT does it.
     
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    My post was about the significance of his lying and being a fairly prolific liar. Your post didn't have anything to do with that. Your bad logic is your own, don't involve me in it.
     
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    Fixed it for you.
     
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    Your post attributed a lie to him that isn't a lie.

    That makes the logic problem yours.

    Own it or be pwned.
     
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    You'd think if there were actual damage and a constitutional crisis at hand, getting rid of him ASAP would be their top priority.

    Instead, their top priority is finding something, anything, among a bunch of bullshit claims, to be true.
     
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    Do elaborate.
     
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    You're the one claiming he's lying. What in this is a lie?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/11/trump-denies-any-links-to-russia-no-loans-no-nothing.html

    "I have had dealings over the years where I sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago. I had the Miss Universe pageant — which I owned for quite a while — I had it in Moscow a long time ago. But other than that, I have nothing to do with Russia," Trump said.

    Trump specifically said he has no investments or loans in or from Russia.
     
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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-mueller-enlists-the-irs-for-his-trump-russia-investigation

    It’s been widely reported that the special counsel’s team is trying to “flip” Paul Manafort, the president’s former campaign CEO, in hopes he will provide evidence against his former colleagues. Former federal prosecutors tell The Daily Beast one of Manafort’s biggest legal liabilities could be to what’s called a “check the box” prosecution. Federal law requires that people who have money in foreign bank accounts check a box on their tax returns disclosing that. And there’s speculation that Manafort may have neglected to check that box, which would be a felony. This is exactly the kind of allegation the IRS would look into.

    These investigations, which are often extremely complex, can take a lot of time. That means the people involved sometimes have to spend significant amounts of money on legal fees. The Daily Beast previously reported that targets of Mueller’s probe—including Manafort—are facing financial strain because of the probe, and that Manafort recently parted ways with the law firm WilmerHale in part because of his financial troubles.
     
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    Kinda like the Republicans did with Bill Clinton in the 90's with Whitewater.......but you'll find a way to justify it. Unfortunately for you, you just set the bar using "actual damage and a constitutional crisis" as the criteria for this kind of situation. And please don't EVEN try to tell us that Bill's fuck ups were any more egregious than Donny's......
     
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    So who ended up with the $500 mill in the Rosneft deal?
     
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    I'll just leave it at this. The Clintons are the subject of numerous scandals for good reason.

    The impeachment worked out as it should have - he was not removed from office, but held to account for his crimes.
     
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    This is the latest shit thrown against the wall to see if it sticks?

    Trump is Putin's puppet!
     
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    Which is pretty much how many of us expect things to work out for Donny........and why we're grateful for the investigation.
     
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    Given all the time and investigation so far, nada, zip, zilch. By this time in Watergate, I think Nixon had resigned.

    Clinton was suspended by the Arkansas state bar. He was disbarred by the US Supreme Court, too. To avoid prosecution after leaving office, he reached a plea deal with the special prosecutor, Ray. He paid Paula Jones $900K as part of that.

    He wasn't innocent by any stretch.

    http://www.snopes.com/bill-clinton-fined-and-disbarred-over-the-monica-lewinsky-scandal/

    And if you actually trust snopes to be the Truth:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/01/national/clinton-disbarred-from-practice-before-supreme-court.html
     
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