Politics Democrats cringing at Hillary Clinton's long goodbye

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ary-clintons-book-what-happened-clear-message

    Hillary Clinton's book has a clear message: don't blame me

    Thomas Frank


    How do you lose the presidency to a man like Donald Trump? He was the most unpopular presidential candidate of all time, compounding blunder with blunder and heaping gaffe upon gaffe. Keeping him from the Oval Office should have been the single-minded mission of the Democratic party. And it should have been easy for them.

    Instead they lost, and now their 2016 candidate Hillary Clinton comes before us to account for this monumental failure, to tell us What Happened. Unfortunately, her new book is less an effort to explain than it is to explain away.

    No real blame ever settles anywhere near Clinton’s person. And while she wrestles gamely with the larger historical question of why the party of the people has withered as inequality grows, she never offers a satisfying answer. Instead, most of the blame is directed outward, at familiar suspects like James Comey, the Russians and the media.
     
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    And the Republicans are PISSED because he worked with the Dems.
     
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    He wants to spend lots of money at a deficit to pay for hurricane damage. So he worked with the party that loves to spend lots of money at a deficit.

    Reaching across the aisle like this is something Obama never did.
     
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    C'mon Denny.

    The Debt Ceiling is money we already OWE...

    Y'all need to stop with that bull.

    Last time I checked Republicans LOVE to spend too. Just on different shit. War war war.
     
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    No, the debt ceiling is the max we can borrow. Raising it is to allow the government to rack up even more debt. Thanks Obama.

    Last time I checked, there are 52 republicans in the senate and plenty who would not vote to raise the debt ceiling, period. The only way raising the debt ceiling would pass is with enough Democrats - and they were glad to help spend more.
     
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    And those republicans are in that camp now since the stupid Tea Party came in.

    Thanks Obama? Reagan raised the Debt ceiling how many times? How many times did Bush?

    You're really full of it right now. Every president raises the debt ceiling but somehow it's Obama's fault...
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    He's been playing too much Crusader Kings 2 as a Zoroastrian.
     
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    Man I had to google that shit!
     
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    Those republicans have nothing to do with Tea Party. There's been a Liberty Caucus in the republican party for decades.

    Carter, before Reagan, raised the debt ceiling. It's been rare that the debt has ever gone down, no matter who's the president.

    When Reagan was president, the Democrats controlled both houses and the House declared Reagan's budgets DOA and wrote their own. Reagan wanted a balanced budget amendment and line item veto. If he had those, we'd not be in so much debt and he wouldn't have borrowed at all.

    It's Obama's fault it was raised $10,000,000,000,000. That money would have paid reparations 5x over. What do we have to show for all that spending? Nothing bit hundreds of $billions in interest payments (which buy nothing).
     
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    Hilarious. You blame Obama for "spending" (no president spends. The house has the purse strings) but blame congress for Reagan's spending (our national debt TRIPLED under Reagan).

    You can't have it both ways.
     
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    And you're acting like Reagan's budget was good... It fucking sucked. But you have a Libertarian's view of what government should/shouldn't do.

    Somalia basically.
     
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    lol, i guess on election night she took a nap while the election results were coming in.

    https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/hillary-clinton-describes-the-night-she-lost-to-donald-trump

     
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    Here's a chart for you:

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    I guess he should start blaming Trump too then. Oh wait, trump is a republican president so its the congress's fault. Thats the pattern right. Obamas administration had to spend as much as they did to fix the hole Bush Jr put us in. Bush spent so much on the war it was ridculous. His tenure caused a mini depression. The shit pile was so big after Bush left, obama was basically a janitor cleaning it up.
     
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