Repealing Obamacare

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Remember that exercise where 10 or 20 people stand in a line and the first person says a short sentence and people pass it to the next person and so on? The last person invariably writes down something completely different. That's how this internet shit gets passed around.
     
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  2. MarAzul

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    Naw! Maybe some of these guys just can't keep it straight. But I really think most of the daily fountains just pull it out of ...
     
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  3. riverman

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    translation....Trump is really unpopular
     
  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    So are aliens. Even though there's no proof of aliens.
     
  5. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So Trump doesn't exist?

    Good news, everyone!

    barfo
     
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  6. MarAzul

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    A response from Merkley about my letter on health care.
    The salient paragraph;

    "
    However, I recognize that the law is not perfect and that too many Oregonians are struggling to pay for their health care. The vision of the ACA was to allow customers to shop in a competitive marketplace where insurance carriers would offer high-quality plans at an affordable price point. I am ready to work with my colleagues on commonsense improvements to control costs, but regressing to a time when health care insurance companies discriminated against people with pre-existing conditions and millions lacked access to life-saving treatments would be unacceptable."

    Constituent feedback, like yours, is vital to this process and I thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me.
    >>> actually he totally ignored me.

    It reveals why we will not get a solution from Congress. Why people will not be able to buy insurance. Why the subsidies is the government plan for insurance in the foreseeable future.
    When you view a business model that produces a product useful and worth the cost to the consumer, and produces a profit for the provider, as discrimination we are in trouble.
    The government is in the business of wiping out discrimination as they define the term, not getting us affordable health care.

    I find this response to be completely without understanding, nearly juvenile. Especially when you consider they only attempt to eliminate the "discrimination" with in the very small pool
    of people and employers that purchase healthcare.

    Hell you could cut the cost of the health care almost in half, if you just pooled them all in one group and managed it as a large self insured group with a little small bit of government backing.
    Let the insurance companies bid on managing it, not fund risk, but manage it just like they do for and given large corporation.

    Vote no on Merkley. He lacks the wisdom to be a Senator from Oregon.
     
  7. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Disagree, and here's proof:

    barfo
     
  8. Rastapopoulos

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    Oregon is going to fuck your Health Insurance up so bad, it won't matter if Obama Care does get repealed.
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/republicans-face-looming-deadline-on-health-law-1503223201

    A bipartisan plan from Sens. Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.), chairman of the Senate’s health committee, and Patty Murray (D., Wash.), the committee’s top Democrat, would need support from senators in both parties to clear a 60-vote threshold in the Senate. Hearings are slated for the first two weeks after Congress returns.

    Their proposal would likely preserve for next year billions of dollars in federal payments to insurers known as cost-sharing reduction subsidies. ​

    If compromise means billions of dollars in federal payments to insurers, count me out.

    More:

    Lawmakers returning to the Capitol from recess on Sept. 5 will have only 12 legislative days to decide whether to pass a bipartisan bill aimed at bolstering the ACA’s markets before insurers must commit to participating in the law’s exchanges in 2018. At the same time, a plan from Sens. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.) and Bill Cassidy (R., La.) that would largely topple most of the ACA is gaining traction among Republicans.

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    During the congressional recess, support also has grown for the plan championed by Mr. Graham, which would give states the billions of dollars spent on the ACA to create their own health-care approaches. It also would end the requirement that most people purchase insurance or pay a penalty. Conservative lawmakers in both the House and Senate see it as the most viable path toward a repeal of the ACA.

    The idea, backed also by GOP Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada, could draw other Republicans away from any plan to bolster the ACA’s markets. A spokesman for Mr. Cassidy said the two bills could move on parallel tracks, with lawmakers choosing to shore up insurance markets in the short term while pursuing more sweeping changes to the law.

    Some Republicans want legislation to shore up the markets and preserve the cost-sharing payments. Others, along with Mr. Trump, are eager to repeal most of the ACA. They see the subsidies as a bailout of insurers.
     
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    Unless one of those names is Collins, Murkowski or McCain, what does it matter?
     
  12. Denny Crane

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    Graham is your hero.

    McCain is his buddy.

    It ain't over.
     
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    You'll know when it's over, because Denny will say "Buh Bye, Obamacare".

    barfo
     
  14. Rastapopoulos

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    Graham Souness, maybe.

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    Especially when he was in Boys from the Blackstuff:

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    (Yes, that's Bernard Hill, who went on to play King Theoden in LoTR.)
     
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    Actually Denny doesn't know it, but he's the new Sisyphus, and that is his eternal curse.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Huh Hi, Obamacare!

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    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...-he-nearly-has-the-votes-for-obamacare-repeal

    Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) is predicting he will win enough votes to pass his last ditch ObamaCare repeal-and-replace bill through the Senate, despite the long odds he seems to be facing.

    “I am pretty confident we’ll get there on the Republican side,” Cassidy told a group of reporters in his office on Friday. “We’re probably at 48-49 [votes] and talking to two or three more.”

    (McCain said he supports it)

    The prospects of the bill passing have alarmed Democratic activists, who are now mobilizing against it.

    (Be alarmed!)
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Drumpf isn't going to have many legislative wins before he's impeached. This won't be one of them.
     
  20. Denny Crane

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    We'll see.

    The fat lady sure hasn't sung yet. There's another 7+ years of "Drumpf" to go.
     

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