Politics NFL and Trump

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  1. kingslayer

    kingslayer Well-Known Member

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    Pop's comments (starts around 2:10)

     
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    I think this backfired on the true activists. This went from talking about issues to an Ice Bucket Challenge Redux b/c the President showed his ass and it became cool to "Boycott Against the President". "HEY, LOOK AT ME INSTAGRAMMING THAT MURICA SUX! EFF YOU, DRUMPF!"
    (Meanwhile 157 black men have been killed by police this year. 9 were unarmed. 566 non-black men were killed by police this year. 23 were unarmed.)

    Personally, I am not and have not been stoked about Kaepernick's "protest" at the field. If he thinks there is a systemic issue with black men being murdered by racist policemen (because I follow data on things like the WaPo police killing tracker, I personally don't, but that's for another thread), there are multiple ways to fight against that. He's (to much credit and respect from me) doing so now that he doesn't get to play on Sundays by donating money, talking in communities, talking to policemen, etc.

    But I understand that, as a white man who's only been shot at by people who don't live in America, I don't get an opinion on how people protest. Or what they protest. Or what the reasons for the situations they're protesting are and how to actually address them. Doesn't matter.

    Jim Brown, that Uncle Tom dude that doesn't know a lick about being black or an activist or a football player, says (about Kaepernick, but you could substitute "they", I think...)
    Russell Wilson spends much of his offtime working for his church, his charities and Children's Hospital of Seattle. There are probably a bunch of you who couldn't care less for him or his views on the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and are happy that he doesn't get to use the field on Sundays as his platform. He literally has 164 other hours in the week and legion other venues for which to be an activist for just about whatever he wants.
     
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    This is a well thought out and cognitive response to such a divisive issue. Damn near perfect! Thank you.
     
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    His religious adviser, specifically.
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I see the problem: you hear and repeat lies.

    I call you out on it.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Who said this:

    "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success."

    He also said:

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
     
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    Marzul and other vets on the forum have said multiple times they don't fight/die for the flag.
    They also said you could ask any vet what they were fighting for, and it would be the guy next to them.

    Let the spin begin.
     
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    if you said Goebbels you might be mistaken
    http://truthisthegreatestenemyofthestate.blogspot.com/
    Clinton I think did in reference to trump or vice versa not sure
     
  11. Rastapopoulos

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    Let's try this. Am I complimenting you here or insulting you?

    "Denny is a really smart guy, is something Denny thinks, but that in fact couldn't be further from the truth."

    Passing this test should help you to see why the source you cited never actually asserted that Donald Trump had delivered on his promise. Good luck!
     
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    stuff like this reminds me of this bit by chappelle. Also along with what celebrities and athletes think. This is the shit that goes through my head

     
  13. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The WaPost said the money was paid, and I found another legitimate citation that showed the amounts and the recipients verified it. It wasn't Trump saying it in the middle of one of his monologues.

    What else is there to say?

    "Do you read your fucking links?"

    Yes, I did.

    Are you so numb to the constant Trump bashing echo chamber no matter what he does that the Truth evades you? It's not just your problem, it's a lot of peoples'. Hence the Goebbels quotes. The media studies the guy and his tactics in journalism school (among many other things). They know what they're doing. Don't be a dupe.

    Get this, though. 60M+ voted for the guy and almost all have stuck with him. They're not unreasonable people - far from it.

    Be afraid.
     
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    Yeah. Believe the free blogspot account over the holocaust center (a different site than your blogspot blogger mentions).

    I don't, but feel free if if makes you happy.

    At worst, the first quote is attributed to Adolph himself. The second is Goebbels for sure.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    This is a problem. Why don't you want to do anything about it?

    You should join campaign zero. It's not our fault that you all aren't standing up for your unarmed white people killed by police. No worries, we'll do it for you.

    https://www.joincampaignzero.org/
     
  16. Denny Crane

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    God knows (that's "god" with a small "g") how viral all that bullshit went.
     
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    I'm not sure what Bozo the Clown is tweeting these days.

    I don't follow twitter much. I like my news more than 140 characters at a time and from reliable sources.

    You know, people who weren't balling their eyes out and acting like a horrible wrong was done in the universe on election night and must use 24/7 propaganda to make things right!
     
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