Politics Puerto Rico

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  1. Further

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    As far as I can tell, Trump has done a decent job, could be better but could be worse. However, every time he speaks or tweets it comes off so lacking of empathy or knowledge of what is actually transpiring that he seems inept. He should shut up and do his job.
     
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    Trump needs to fire the president of Puerto Rico.
     
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    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/29/gov-of-puerto-rico-praises-federal-response-to-hurricane-video/

    Puerto Rico Governor Ricardo Rosello said Friday morning that he is pleased with the Trump administration’s response to Hurricane Maria despite criticism from the media and Democrats.

    “I have to say that the administration has responded to our petitions. FEMA, Brock Long, has been on the phone virtually all the time with me, checking out how things are going,” Rosello told CNN’s Chris Cuomo.

    Cuomo initially tried to bait Rosello into bashing Trump’s response, telling him, “the president points to you as someone who is providing proof that the effort on the ground is great…and you know that there is a stark contrast between the word ‘great’ and the conditions many of your people are living in.”

    “How do you explain these two versions of reality?” Cuomo asked Rosello.

    However, Rosello’s positive response to the administration’s efforts to help Puerto Rico blew up Cuomo’s narrative, as Rosello explained that it is possible for the recovery to be slow even while the government pours in many resources.

    “Within the limitations, everyone has all hands on deck,” he said.
     
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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...rto-rico-hurricane-relief-20170925-story.html

    We also offer some context. Puerto Rico’s governor, Ricardo Rossello, praised President Trump’s responsiveness, saying Trump has been in contact with him on a daily basis. Rossello has said he was “very grateful” for the help of the federal government and blamed logistics, not politics, for delays in getting help immediately after the storm.

    Within days of the storm’s landfall, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, U.S. Department of Defense, National Guard, U.S. Marines and the Coast Guard were on the ground or on their way to the island, federal officials have said. Thousands of U.S. Army Reservists also were deployed and flights and vessels of supplies began arriving.

    Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands will qualify for the same programs offered by the federal government toward hurricane relief efforts for residents of Texas and Florida.
     
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    Seems like they need to clear the roads and distribute fuel so the trucks can get the plenty of goods already there to the rest of the island.
     
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...leadership-hurricane-relief-crisis/719429001/

    Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló said Saturday that he only heard about Trump’s tweets when a reporter read them to him, but that he has spoken multiple times to the president, as well as Vice President Mike Pence in recent days.

    “He has reiterated his commitment and that we are a priority,” Rosselló said at a news conference. “And he has shown that whenever we have asked he has delivered.”

    He began his remarks by stressing the importance of cooperation between local and federal authorities.

    “We want to stress the unity of purpose that federal government, DOD (Department of Defense), local government and municipalities are trying to establish to bring this recovery to Puerto Rico,” Rosselló said.

    “The only way for this to work is to stress collaboration. I am committed to collaborating with everyone,” he said. “This is a moment where we have to serve the people of Puerto Rico.”

    The death count to date is 16, but “based on the devastation it will likely go up,” Rosselló said.

    In an update on relief efforts, Rosselló said the number of open gasoline stations has increased from 450 four days ago to 714. He said 11 regional staging areas have been receiving food and water across the island and that telecommunications has been restored in several key municipalities, including San Juan.

    He also said the stockpiles of fuel have increased to 600,000 barrels of diesel and 722,000 barrels of gasoline.
     
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    Yeah...I read where their power grid was 6 billion in debt and was basically held together with bubble gum and bailing wire. They have only a few service tecs . Its not like here where the local power co has trucks lined up and staged to roll...
     
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    Not like you can drive trucks full of stuff to repair things from neighboring states.

    They're saying on CNN that this is Trump's Katrina. When they go to their people on the ground, though, the reporting is that the entire outside plant (all the phone poles with the electrical wires) are down, the power plant is all but destroyed, that there are 10,000 troops on the ground, that the governor has gotten everything he asked for, that the supplies needed are there, just difficult to distribute.

    Haiti. It's really difficult to rebuild everything on an island that took centuries to build in the first place.

    Not sure comparing the response to the response in Haiti makes an argument look good.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/haiti-earthquake-anniversary_us_5875108de4b02b5f858b3f9c

    7 Years After Haiti’s Earthquake, Millions Still Need Aid

    On Jan. 12, 2010, a massive earthquake ravaged Haiti, claiming up to 316,000 lives and displacing more than 1.5 million people. Today ― seven years later ― 2.5 million Haitians are still in need of humanitarian aid, according to a new report from the United Nations.
     
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    Those are 2 great examples of weakass responses by weakass Presidents.

    Trump's response to Puerto Rico is so much more professional, organized and effective, that he is already guaranteed to be re-elected regardless of who runs against him.

    When the fake news cloud clears and the truth comes out again, the DNC will lose another group of party members that have grown tired of being lied to.
     
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    The only valid comparison to Haiti is that the Clinton Foundation stole billions from the Haiti relief effort and the Clinton Foundation is already stealing money from the Puerto Rico relief effort.
     
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    I spent about 45 minutes in the old lobby of the VA hospital in Roseburg yesterday. This is sort of a common waiting room for several departments in that wing of the hospital.

    Went in, took a seat an noticed, several other old vets sitting about. Looked up at the TV, shit! MSNBC is running, I sort of cringed, reading the test running across the screen.
    Trump bashing non stop about Puerto Rico, no sound, just text. Crap! Mindless shit!

    Looked around the room, five of the seven, had Red Make America Great Again hats on. Ha! I don't wear hats, just let the white hair blow.
    The MSNBC gang continues with the bash, for awhile, then one old boy shouts out, Where is the damn channel selector!

    Then the greeter steps forward, and old Corpsman in his greeter gear. He says, Ok I'll change it! Just checking to see if you guys were dead!
    It actually was pretty damn funny
     
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    Only someone with really tiny hands would feel the need to go praise shopping late Saturday night.

    So funny.

    So very sad.

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    Next Trump will call a former Puerto Rican busboy from one of his golf clubs for some more praise shopping.
     
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    Speaks out against federal response in front of ... pallets of federal response.

    Talk about Baghdad Bob moments.
     
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    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-09-30/no-trump-didn-t-botch-the-puerto-rico-crisis

    A Q&A with former Navy Captain Jerry Hendrix on smart preparations the White House and Pentagon made for the looming storm.

    TH: So, it seems like everybody has blasted Trump administration's response to the Puerto Rico crisis. Has that criticism been fair?

    JH: No, I don’t think so. First of all, there was a fair amount of anticipatory action that is not being recognized. Amphibious ships, including the light amphibious carriers Kearsarge and Wasp and the amphibious landing ship dock Oak Hill were at sea and dispatched to Puerto Rico ahead of the hurricane’s impact.

    These are large ships that have large flight decks to land and dispatch heavy-lift CH-53 helicopters to and from disaster sites. They also have big well-decks -- exposed surfaces that are lower than the fore and aft of the ship -- from which large landing craft can be dispatched to shore carrying over 150 tons of water, food and other supplies on each trip. These are actually the ideal platforms for relief operations owing to their range of assets. The ships, due to their designs to support Marine amphibious landings in war zones, also have hospitals onboard to provide medical treatment on a large scale. That these ships were in the area should be viewed as a huge positive for the administration and the Department of Defense.

    TH: On the flip side, others say that sending the hospital ship Comfortwas unnecessary -- purely symbolic and possibly counterproductive -- given that the number of hospital beds was not the problem. What's your opinion?

    JH: Comfort can add to the solution, but her lack of well-decks and large boats as well as her limited support of helicopter operations means that she has to go alongside a pier to be effective. In the immediate aftermath of a huge storm, pulling into a port that has not been surveyed for underwater obstacles like trees or cables or other refuse is an invitation to either put a hole your ship or foul your propellers or rudders.

    That being said, there was a broad misunderstanding of the Comfort’s mission. She is not an “emergency response ship” but rather a hospital ship. She was built to accompany a large military force into a war zone as part of a buildup over time of capabilities to respond to wartime injuries. She is manned by military and civilian mariners as well as active and reserve medical personnel. It takes time to both man and equip her for sea. Given that there was no certainty where the hurricane would hit, it doesn’t make sense to have readied her prior to its impact.

    It is revelatory of where the U.S. group mind is now that when the American public thinks about ships like the Comfort and Mercy, they automatically think of them as part of a civilian emergency response force rather than quietly considering the type of potential conflict that would require a hospital ship with 1,000 beds. I can tell you that when I think of those ships, I internally shudder at the thought of the type of conflict they were intended to support.
     

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