OT Active Shooters in Vegas

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I feel like we're taught from a very young age that we can solve our problems with violence. That Americans kick ass. I have never lived outside the US so I have no idea how our culture compares to other cultures in that way.
     
  2. andalusian

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    Education is always a worthy goal imho.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It's just not going to happen. For a lot of Americans, the 2nd amendment is the line in the sand. If the government tried to outlaw guns / confiscate guns, you're looking at potentially a second civil war. Do you think it's worth the death of millions of people to confiscate guns?

    It's even worse now, with people full on believing that there's a massive conspiracy against the President. When you have people who think the government is out to get them, and then you try to take away their guns, that's going to lead to a lot of death.
     
  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The numbers black vs. white are horrific. Something like 100 in 1,000,000 white people killed by gun shot in a year, something like 1,000 in 1,000,000 black people killed.

    I'm pretty sure the 100 number is in line with homicide around the world.
     
  6. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It's not YOUR choice. Your rights are no more important than NateBishop's. He wants to own guns and he's no threat to anyone.
     
  8. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Is it your choice Denny?
     
  9. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    When all the bad people in the world are without guns, I will gladly get rid of mine. Let me know when that happens.
     
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  10. andalusian

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    Would you be opposed to having tougher rules to owning a gun - passing written and practical exam for proper handling of one for example? Having to register your guns periodically and being held accountable to their where-about?
     
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  11. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Another thing you need to keep in mind is that people can make guns. People can make auto weapons out of non auto weapons
     
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  12. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Again, it's not the legal gun owners that are the majority of the problem.
     
  13. andalusian

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    When you want to make things easier - remove obstacles. When you want to make them harder - added layers.

    The issue is not eliminating gun-ownership, but increasing accountability by proper registration and education.

    Too many people buy into the NRA's it's all or nothing mindset. That's a real shame.
     
  14. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Well, as much as I like the idea of no guns except for people hunting food with them you have to realize that some changes have unforseen penalties.

    If criminals thought nobody had a gun in this country how many more home invasions would there be? I'm sure plenty of people have thought of it and didn't wanna risk getting shot.

    There's probably tons of things that just the threat of a gun does passively.

    Imagine the road rage you'd see on YouTube. It's still all over the website and people don't wanna get shot so they let stuff go.

    We're pretty damn violent in general.
     
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    Correct. But the ease of access to fire-arms (it is laughably easy to get access to fire-arms in this country) is.

    It is a question of where you put the line. There is nothing that makes it unconstitutional to have a proper background check period before being able to get a firearm from a gun-show, or requiring people to be held accountable to the gun's whereabouts.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    How does being held accountable for the gun's whereabouts do anything?

    I delivered bedroom furniture when I was 20. People are fucking disgusting. I'd bet half of the people I delivered to couldn't find half their shit if you put a gun to their head.
     
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    If guns are registered and need to be reported for sale/disappearance - it will be harder to get guns illegally. Going to eliminate it? Not even close. Move it a bit higher than laughably easy? Sure.

    Maybe these people should not be gun owners?

    We require cars and drivers to be registered. Why not guns and owners?

    Small hurdle for the responsible for gun owners, a bigger hurdle for the irresponsible ones and hopefully making it harder for some of the nutso out there.
     
  18. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I agree. I do think it's more mental health issues than anything
     
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  19. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I am pro choice in all things. As long as the choice doesn't directly hurt someone.
     
  20. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Constitutional rights aren't limited to clean people.

    Hey, I'd melt all the guns down and build something useful with them but other people want them.
     

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