Politics California To Have Harsher Penalty For Pronoun Violations Than For Knowingly Spreading HIV

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    In the cult poisoning case I mentioned they were charged with attempted murder, even if there was a salmonella law on the books and the penalty was 6 months it wouldn't change anything. The attorney could argue that all he wants, if convicted of both crimes the person would not be given only the penalty of the lesser crime they were convicted of.
     
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    You owe me an apology. You attributed some of the worst things I can imagine to me.

    I have done nothing but try my 100% best to make this site friendly for LGBT, women, and pretty much anyone else not a spammer.

    EDIT: and people of color.

    Your insult is deeply disturbing.
     
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    If one believes transgenders are delusional, mentally "confused", or under social coercion/brainwashing from liberal propaganda organizations bent on destroying polite society to achieve world domination, forcing one to "go along" with the dangerous charade/programming could indeed extract a terrible cost to one.

    This unhealthy pre-occupation with what "others" think or say is a mental illness pandemic that makes people weak-willed, ineffective, and unproductive.
     
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    Pronouns aren't abuse. They may not be respectful, but they aren't abuse.

    Like the "N" word, it's no crime to use it, and nobody should ever be thrown in jail/prison for using it. But if someone does use it and commits a crime or something that is civil actionable, use of that word is evidence of motive.

    If the people aren't being fed, aren't kept warm, aren't given their medications, are kept in closets, and that sort of thing, it's abuse.
     
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    So dumb
     
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    I'm sorry.
     
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    I'm not sure what I believe about Transgender people. I liked this because I can see the possibility. Just making that clear for the people who judge me for what posts I like.
     
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    He's not arguing if he's right.
     
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    What's dumb is that it isn't even remotely similar. Those are two different crimes by law. Now the HIV infection is one crime. With one max sentence. There is no other crime unless you give someone HIV and then shoot them or something.

    THEN they can charge two separate crimes.
     
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    Maris, we have more than one transgendered member of this community. The one person we know about, you can't give her enough respect to call her by the pronoun she now identifies as? No one is asking you to agree with her decision, just basic respect. You can't or won't do that? Really?
     
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    Right or wrong someone could feel like it wasn't something they felt ok with?

    That nutjob Kim Davis? Don't like her but I at least understood it.
     
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    Arguing is arguing. Doesn't matter if you think you're right. I argue. And if I hurt someone's feelings in something I post I'm man enough to apologize. Doesn't mean I agree or even feel that I was wrong. Denny said I hurt his feelings. While I love to fuck with him I don't want to inflict pain. That's not my thing. So I said I was sorry.
     
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    If they eventually die from AIDS, as many wounded victims do from stabbings and the like, then a murder charge would be filed, except in batshit-crazy California.
     
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    I didn't know Kim as a member of this community.
     
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    I wasn't arguing at all. It was a discussion as far as I am concerned. I was trying to understand how this law is going to make some family not look at her funny, or even make her life better, or how she believed that making speech illegal would somehow make the people who are abusive stop being abusive (I think they'd find some other even worse way).

    EDIT: Note my use of pronouns.
     
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    If someone infected someone with AIDS with the intention to murder them and there was proof of it I would hope a prosecutor would bring charges of attempted murder against them.
     
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    It is attempted murder, assault and battery, and likely a few other crimes.
     
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    But Bodyman is arguing that now the max penalty is only 6 months if a person is convicted of those crimes.
     
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    Did you read what the article said. The sponsors says it isn't because HIV isn't a death sentence anymore.

    Those crimes can't be charged now because there is a specific penalty for the one and only action committed.

    If someone gets HIV like this and for some reason treatment doesn't work I suppose a prosecutor could charge them with whatever they want but you're still missing the entire point as per usual.

    Go back and read what I said again.
     
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