Politics what happens if a future presidential election is hacked?

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Too bad that the educated electorate is too stupid to vote in Hillary, eh?

    That's what this all stinks of.
     
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    The courts can and have invalidated election results. Gore 2000, the Florida Supreme Court uncertified the certified election results and REMEDY ordered a partial (unconstitutional) recount.

    And the Supreme Court invalidated that recount effort.
     
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    not like the scenario of a third party actually swinging the entire presidential election for a false result through a hack. physical evidence of the election tampering by a third party that can be traced and entered as evidence, as in the supreme court would find it not only compelling but a physical proof/fact.
     
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    It's a "first" party that hacked the election in Palm Beach County. How much worse can it be?
     
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    this thread has nothing to do with the last election. I seem to be able to have better conversations with my 6 yearold grandson. I am sorry you hate Hillary. it seems an obsession or are you so insecure in our presidents validity that we can't talk about this possibility? I for one do not want a do over. the results are the results. I don't like many things about my president, but I accept that he is.
     
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    My best guess is that the most remedy the Court would provide is making the Speaker of the House the president. If not that, it would be up to congress to impeach and remove a traitor. If not a traitor, then the president would serve 4 years with a congress unwilling to pass anything at all.
     
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    The impetus for the article is the last election, and 2000, and any others sore losers can't get over losing.

    I warn you about the dangers of trying to pass some sort of "remedy" for something that doesn't require one. It will be abused, much as people are suggesting with the 25th and the current president.
     
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    I showed you evidence of 19,000 ballots that were altered. That is explicitly changed voter record.
     
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    what about the military? what about legislation that had already been written in to law? trade agreements? war?
     
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    What about these things?

    You can't undo what's done.
     
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    I replied I wished it had said nothing more current than foreign powers had in the past tried to hack our election.
     
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    what about the military? the legislation is still valid? people would be very unlikely to accept this process that the courts have so mandated as with segregation, and no constitutional path to back its descion.
     
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    It said it because it is a biased piece of trash.

    Sorry, but that's how I see it.
     
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    You can't undo what is done. The new president would have to pass his or her own laws and/or executive orders.
     
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    if I remember correctly Alabama nearly revolted over the courts segregation descions and the central government needed to call up the guard.
    this would be far more controversial in my opinion. thus I see a need for a path that the framers couldn't have imagined nor likely comprehend.
    I also consider this a very real threat because of the actions and attempts/and successes by foreign nations. again iran, china, north korea and Russia to name a few.
     
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    It's up to us to protect our election infrastructure.

    The code that goes into voting machines is regulated and reviewed with the strictest security measures. They can be hacked if a hacker has long time access to a machine.

    The paper ballots can be hacked, too. As democrats did in Palm Beach County in 2000. Take a stack of ballots and push a spike through the Gore spot. The gore votes remain gore, the others become spoiled as two votes for president.

    Nobody with any credibility is claiming the election machines were hacked or could be.

    I can only repeat that if there is some mechanism written into the constitution, it will be abused every election cycle. We've seen the recount system abused or threatened to be abused in 2000 and 2016. Or the Obama not born in the US thing (example of abuse of something written in the constitution).
     
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    Ill tell you what happens. Obama wins
     
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    Voting machines are built by corporations. Corporations owned by rich conservatives. I wouldn't put it past them to manipulate said machines to be in favor of the candidate they want to win. Namely republican candidates.
     
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