Politics The FBI’s Political Meddling

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I've posted this numerous times. I have no desire to see Mueller gone. When Clinton and his allies went after Ken Starr, it was bad for the republic. It's no better when those on the right go after Mueller.

    As clear and plain as I can make it: Mueller should be allowed to finish his job, and nobody should block or slow him down. The Truth will come out and there'll be plenty of time to politically spin his findings.

    We don't want people friendly to the ones being investigated to do the investigations. We want the most partisan of the opposing view to do the investigation. When it's done and he (or she) finds a nothingburger, that finding is unimpeachable. If he finds against the ones being investigated, and his methods are questionable, that will come out, too. If the finding is a smear job for partisan reasons, that will come out, too.

    As far as Mueller goes, he seems a man of integrity to me. Let him do his job.

    (We don't have a thread about him)
     
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    Sorry Denny. When you have nothing after 6 or 7 months, integrity demands you say so.
     
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    So, therefore, maybe he has something.

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    He might as well come with it then. Only public opinion brought to bare through Congress can do anything about it.

    No, he is still fishing. And cashing checks.
     
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    He’s not done fishing yet.
     
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    I agree with you Denny, but that said, of course I think Ken Starr was out of control.

    Similarly, Comey threw the election to Trump and should be fired.

    Oops, he was!
     
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    Marazul - Investigations, especially one so important and detailed, sadly, take more than 6 months. Ken Starr was at it for years.

    Mueller has no obligation to give an interim report. Indeed, he has every reason not to. He may have something, he may not. His silence is no indication of either.
     
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    Mueller is knee-deep in the FBI's cover-up of criminality and abuse of office under his watch, same with Rosenstein.

    No possible way to receive an acceptable and honest result as long as either, or any of their appointees, remain on the investigation.

    Foxes guarding the henhouse.
     
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    Denny Crane under investigation from the FBI for impersonating famed actor William Shatner

    Wow it looks so real in bold
     
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    That's pretty asinine even for you. Given that you assume it is possible to identify who's partisan, then let's assume it's a continuum. We want the most disinterested (no, that doesn't mean uninterested) non-partisan investigator possible. If the investigator is partisan then they will claim to have found SOMETHING, and conversely, they will be branded "Fake News" by the partisan hacks on the other side and no wrongdoing will ever be recognized.
     
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    Ken Starr was at it for years and found nothing actionable, but that Big Bill was sleazy bugger. Not a good justification for abusing another President. The idea that we elect a President and then the opposition gets the consolation prize of having him "investigated"
    for years is not a good system. A better way is to investigate again in four years.
     
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    Starr chose the wrong crime to go after Clinton for. He had a few options.
     
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    If you complain about the special counsel that will investigate the Clintons and their foundation, that’s a good sign we got the right partisan.

    Starr was a well known conservative, who served as solicitor general for GHW Bush. A constitutional scholar.
     
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    Starr went after Clinton for everything that he could think of. He didn't skip anything. All he found in the end was a sex scandal.

    Maybe Mueller's investigation will end the same way. We'll learn that Trump gave Putin a blowjob.

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    I agree with you 100%.

    You will note that there were few investigations of either W. or Obama because they didn't give the oppo much to investigate.

    Reagan had Iran-Contra. That was Real. Bill had Monica and Perjury. Real. Personally, I think there is too mush Russia smoke for something not to be there, but it is worth investigating. It may or may not be real.
     
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    He could have gone after him for several of the crimes Nixon was accused of, including misuse of public office (he sent his cabinet members out to lie for him), lying to the FBI, perjury, and obstruction of justice.

    At least.
     
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    George W Bush

    9/11 Commission

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush

    https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Bush_administration_investigations
    There have been a number of investigations regarding the George W. Bush administration, some of which are still on-going.
    Obama

    Trump wiretapping
    IRS targeting of conservative groups
    Benghazi
    Operation Fast and Furious
    Solyndra
     

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