Moe's big night

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  1. Paine Tablet

    Paine Tablet Well-Known Member

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    What's the alternative in your mind? Only scrubs can be criticized? It's always the scrubs fault? You sound like a modern feminist talking about men.
     
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    When the scrub does a bad thing, I don’t go pointing the figure at the other guy.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Yeah no... He couldn't guard TJ Leaf...
     
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    Right now Collins is like a cobweb on the court...guys just sweep him outta the way...he has skills but needs 25-40 lbs of muscle to not get crushed out there...he's a project with great skills...check back in two more seasons and we'll see what we've made him into...
     
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    That's just speculation. I think we should give him a shot.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Huh? I saw this with my own eyes when we played the Pacers...

    And we drafted him to be a Center. There's NO WAY he can play SF...

    What the hell are people thinking? Those same people thought TT could play SF too...

    You have to be able to handle the ball and run a pick and roll so no...
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Moe couldn't do either of those things, and he was perfectly adequate at SF prior to this season's drop-off.
     
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    No he was not. It's the reason we overpaid Turner in the first place.
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Not quite. Turner was overpaid summer of 2016. I was referencing Moe's perfectly adequate performance as the starting SF in 2016-17, after Turner's arrival.

    If Moe had performed in 2015-16 as he did in 2016-17, he'd have received a much larger deal that summer, and it's arguable Turner wouldn't have been signed. There's a reason many in here (you included) were very much against the idea of Moe being traded away this past summer--because his defense, athleticism, and shooting seemingly gave us everything we really needed at SF, despite his shortcomings as a playmaker.
     
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    He played 7 minutes against the Pacers. That's not enough time to make a definitive judgment. I think he can handle the ball reasonably well. He just needs to slow down.
     
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    And got used every time he guarded Leaf. I don't remember 1 stop. They're both rookies and Leaf torched him.
     
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    First, he never given us everything at SF. Not even close. This is NOT was I was for keeping him. Go back and look at any of my posts. They were about him being the BEST on the team at cutting without the ball and finishing.
    Literally no one but our starting guards are better. I'd MUCH rather have a Batum type at SF than a Moe type. Also, I was not for Turner starting.
     
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    You have to be able to handle the ball adequately to play that position. Aminu and Harkless can both do this without turning it over. I don't ever want to see Collins taking the ball across half court.
     
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    I think Collins can handle the ball as well as Aminu. Just my opinion.
     
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    So maybe Harkless saw against the Knicks and also the Wizards how a SF can be involved on Offense with the big 3.
     
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    Can't believe this guy was my 3rd favorite player on the squad!
    Now he runs like he's got shit in his pants.
     
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    How can we make this happen? How many draft picks would we need to include? Would this solidify our SF position?
    Milwaukie is underachieving and may want to make some changes

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    Oh dude...
    No way in hell.

    I'm sorry, but no way in hell.
     
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    I just can’t see Milwaukee doing that, at all, even with draft picks involved.
     
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    They would have to be New Jersey Nets with lawrence frank bad to even think about taking this abysmal offer. Why would they give up their 2nd best player and a growing player in Brogdon when they are only 9-9?
     

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