Politics So he's not racist huh??

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No it's not. Calling a black man a boy has a historical meaning that calling a white man a boy does not.

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  2. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    When you use terms such as "reverse racism", you lose ground. There literally is no such thing. And YES calling a black man boy is worse than calling a white man boy.

    Under the constitution we are STILL considered 3/5ths human.
     
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    Isn't it equally demeaning?
     
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    Spud147 Mercy Mercy

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    It IS a black/brown/person of color and white issue. You always have to consider the power dynamics and historical context. I'll put it a different way... as a woman I can call my best girl friend a bitch and mean it as a term of endearment - but if you, as a man, do it... prepare to get your face slapped.

    I once went out to a Salsa dance club with my white friend Tiffany who proceeded to drink too much and thought it was hilarious to walk through the bar yelling out "Juan" or "Jose" to see how many people turned around to look. I was like, WTF are you doing you idiot?!? I told her she was going to end up getting a well deserved beat down if she didn't shut up and I got her out of there immediately. Proper names such as Tyrone/Jerome/Pocahontas can be and are used as racial slurs.

    @dviss1 has probably called some African American friends the N word over the years but I don't ever say that word because I'm not a person of color and it has a completely different meaning when it comes out of my mouth.
     
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    Yeah...saying “boy” to a black man is much much different. I would not appreciate being called boy either but it’s a whole different deal for a black man. People who say “rappers say the N word why can’t I”...are probably racist. How about you just don’t say it and let black people say what they want?
     
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    No it is not... white men have historically had ALL the power and still have most of the power in society to this day. When you call an African American man "Boy" it is meant to diminish his stature. It is why protesters in Memphis in 1968 were wearing signs saying "I AM A MAN". It's 50 years later and we're still questioning this?!?
     
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    Way earlier in this thread I posted a fucking poll where 9 out of 10 native Americans aren’t even offended by the redskins name. You know what you responded with? Quoted it and replied saying “yo mama”. Here it is again

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...38753295f9a_story.html?utm_term=.7d4be237d3d5
     
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    I am getting reminded of the time Bill O'Reilly went to a restaurant with Al Sharpton and was astonished that the mostly black clientele behaved like civilized people, rather than shouting "Yo, m-f, bring me iced tea".
     
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    That's not correct, dviss1. the three-fifths clause (Article I, Section 2, of the U.S. Constitution of 1787) said that for purposes of representation in Congress, enslaved blacks in a state would be counted as three-fifths of the number of white inhabitants of that state.

    The 14th Amendment specifically changed that. First it clarified that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    It went on to say, "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."
     
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    Dumbest shit I ever heard. It’s up to the insulted to decide what is or isn’t a racial slur?! Wow so basically I can go around and be offended by anything and I’m the one that’s right because I’m the insulted. This is that extreme left logic and it’s ridiculous. People love holding the far right accountable in here but I would love to see some people hold the far left and their crazy ideology accountable too. Shit never happens. Hmmm I wonder why, maybe because we live in a far left state.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's pretty much your whole schtick, so, yes, indeed you can.

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    I hate the white men systematic power horseshit. There are actually a decent amount of minorities in power and I don’t know if you remember this but we just had a black president for 8 years, arguably the most powerful posistion in America.
     
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    How about treating others with respect without derogatory names and intentions. It'll go a long way in keeping a conversation open and civil.
     
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    Not really. You’re bias. You never liked me on here and you constantly respond with horseshit to me, nothing positive. I never reply to you because it’s a lost cause these days. Says more about you than me
     
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    Why ask this when I just said no? :dunno:
     
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    Blah blah blah. I know that. It may have been nullified but it wasn't changed. The text still says 3/5ths. And people in here still argue that that had to do with money.
     
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    The hypocrisy the two women in this 'boy' topic is astounding.

    I'll just leave that, at that.
     
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    I don’t think dviss is a bad guy at all. I just don’t understand his logic. It’s so hard to have any conversation with him outside of basketball because he takes everything and claims it’s racist or you’re defending trump no matter if you have denounced racism or trump a million times. He says the slightest shit is racist meanwhile I have seen him say many things you could easily take offense to as a white person and claim it’s also racist. It just makes no sense. People have different opinions dviss, that doesn’t make them racist or a trump supporter. It’s also an issue with other posters on here. Crandc constantly likes to shit on white men. That’s fine whatever. I’m used to the crazy left wing logic by now. I just find it kinda ridiculous on this forum when so many of us have denounced the white supremacists shit and far right wing ideology yet if you criticize sjws or the far far left ideology, the forum gets upset about it and that’s okay. It’s a big justification for how they act. It’s insane.
     
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    It never said that blacks were 3/5 of a person. It said that the number of enslaved blacks only counted 3/5th as much as citizens did when determining representation. The purpose of that fractional count wasn't to deprive enslaved blacks of representation (they had none anyway), but rather to keep slave states from having MORE power by letting them have credit for the full number of disenfranchised slaves that lived there.

    I agree that it's an ugly provision of the Constitution and I'd love to see the document rewritten to remove any reference to slavery.
     

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