Zach Collins is ready

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  1. Destroyer of Worlds

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    He said Steph Curry was worth a championship.

    Steph Curry didn’t sniff one until Draymond shows up...

    And when Draymond is out, what do you know, they struggle...
     
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    I'm not ready to anoint Zach Collins as a mixture of Michael Jordan and Draymond Green. But I am glad he's getting consistent minutes.

    :cheers:
     
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  3. Scalma

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    He’s not playing enough. Aminu was getting worked by Gibson, did Terry make an adjustment? Nope. And where was Vonleh
     
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    Aminu has to play at the 3 and Zach at the 4. Everybody see's this, just not Dumbass Stotts
     
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    Team best +8 tonight and I don't think it's a coincidence. He's a winner.
     
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    That was a college team with many stars (2 other top-6 picks his first 2 years, 3 other top-6 picks his junior year). For the last shot, Georgetown overlooked the weakest guy, the freshman, who then made the last shot. Nice, but that doesn't make him the future GOAT. Despite taking that one shot (and far more important, 2 years later being Player of the Year due to being on the #1-rated team which caved in the playoffs to an inferior Indiana team, when he was outscored by the likes of Uwe Blab and Stew Robinson, making an impression 3 months before his draft), you need to learn that he wasn't the best-known guy in the draft among us ordinary fans (who couldn't afford Sports Illustrated, just as few today read ESPN Insider): For a couple of years before the draft, I had seen a few Associated Press articles about Olajuwon and Bowie. Jordan articles? Zero. That's why I (and so many others who were fans and have argued this for years with you pups) say that they were more famous than Jordan.

    If you want to criticize Blazer GM Stu Inman (a supposed expert whose job was to foretell the future) for not knowing, that's one thing. (I'd still disagree, since the league was all about centers then, not short 6-6 small forwards. Jordan moved to guard and changed that. You think that Inman should have seen that epic change coming.) But you say that Jordan was so laughably famous that even the fan/man on the street would have taken him first, before the more-publicized Olajuwon and Bowie. Wrong.
     
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    Our team needs load of talent whether it's a position of need or not. High profile free agents do not sign with our team, so we must get our talent via draft picks and trades.

    I totally agree with talent trumping positional need.
     
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    His season vorp is -0.1 so slow your roll

    He's solid defensively.
     
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    What's his vorp since the Houston Game?
     
  12. Jon

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    Zach Collins is starting to resemble meyers leonard, but with better defense. personally, i dont like when centers shoot 3's. they should clog the paint.
     
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    When he's in with Davis he's the PF...
     
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    tomato, tomahto.
     
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    I like bigs like Collins who can do both. It's easier for guards to penetrate when the other team's best shotblocker is near the 3 point line.

    Another advantage to being able to do both: If LAC uses Jordan to guard him, he goes to the 3 point line and the guards get 50. If they use Griffin to guard him, (a future much stronger version of Zach) takes him down low, or plays in the high post forcing Griffin to make decisions.
     
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    The fact that you can't differentiate between the skillsets needed at the 2 positions says a lot. :dunno:
     
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    Thats the Way the League go. Bigs Today need to Shoot 3s.
     
  18. Jon

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    i love the fact that you assume shit. dont be "that guy".

    Jordan has never done that. he always clogs the paint. when has anyone from our team scored 50 on the clippers of the past 4-5 years? griffin would be the one to switch and then collins would never get the ball. (just an example)


    my point is, centers should never be outside of 15ft. ever. especially when you have a HUGE wingspan like collins or a super athletic body like meyers. you never see davis outside of 15 ft and he has the best +/- of all our bigs. and it isnt even close.
     
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    i guess im just old school. i like dominant centers.
     
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    Assume shit? You just said potato/potahto when it came to the difference between Centers and PFs. This isn't the 80s. :dunno:
     

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