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  1. dviss1

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    But im white and i wouldnt have got but maybe 2 steps
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I wouldn't have gotten a step.
     
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    I think the only one i was torn on was having a father figure. I spent summers with my dad and got an occasional phone call growing up. Everything else no. Parents divorced, mom took the first $500 i ever made from cutting lawns all summer to pay rent while i was visiting dad. Spent quite a while not sure if i was going to eat. Never got into college until i could pay my own way.

    I find it interesting that this is supposed to make white people see how privileged they are. Why doesnt it show black people that family is important so stop procreating with every woman that will open her legs? Pretty much all the experiment did was prove if you grow up with strong family structure you'll get a head start in life. He said they didnt have a choice. Sure they didnt have a choice for what their parents did and how they acted, but they do have a choice not to follow suit. The fact that they struggled should build in them more of a drive not to repeat the mistakes of their parents.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    A big problem with illustrations like this is that even identifying a person's advantages won't impact their perception of privilege if that person doesn't actually view those things as an advantage. For example, the sets of steps I would have been able to take would have been for "not having worried about my cell phone being shut off", "not having to help my parents with the bills" and "not having to worry where my next meal came from" (all of which are essentially the same thing--not growing up in poverty--but that's a separate issue), but I don't really see those as advantages to my success in life. Had I grown up in poverty, I still would have gone to public school, I still would have had no money when I graduated high school, I still would have had no access to a decent job until after I was 18, I still would have been lucky to have $900 to buy my first car, etc.

    Long story short, if I don't see the elements of my privilege as contributing to privilege, then naming them won't help me understand privilege.
     
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    Exactly my story. Had no money, helped mom by picking berries when I was 5 up until highschool.

    I had a strong grandmother who worked in the laundry at Shilo Inn to help my mom.

    We were poor as shit. There are plenty of reasons I don't have kids but my struggle as a child is the main reason.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I have white privilege in tons of ways as an adult. Being a poor kid wasn't one of them.

    Living in a moldy slug infested house wasn't a privilege growing up.

    We had a refrigerator, but friends who had new ones with ice makers were RICH!!!
     
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    That is really well done.
     
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    Because it doesn't use racism as a factor in determining who will do this. WTF are you even talking about? I'm a 41 year old black man with on child who's 11.

    That's right MF!! I waited and PROTECTED myself until I was able to have a child (30 years old). GTFO with your stereotyping.
     
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    If all you got out of this was that privilege means you have vasts amounts of money, you missed the point. Shamefully so.
     
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    It's more likely that they lack perspective, so when given a new one, they get scared and revert. I could say more but that's as tame as I'll put it.
     
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    Thinking white privilege means you were born with a silver spoon is where those who don't think it exists reside.
     
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    Brilliant clip dviss.....something I'll pass on to a lot of folks
     
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    Maybe it's just me, but perspective, compassion, and empathy are innate. I wish it were innate in the world, but different upbringings and such.

    Have you ever wondered what will happen when the generation from the 40's and 50's are gone? Like, it sucks to think about because they are people... but ideology wise and such... and then what they passed down (especially in certain parts of the country/world)... is it just a revolving door?

    There has been MAJOR societal change and movement towards the positive, until someone happened. I love that there isn't people laying down, and they are out there fighting.

    The main thing I always say to people is: "It literally makes no sense why people can't have basic rights. They are a human, their definiments should not result in them losing rights and benefits unless they are in jail for a crime they committed. Being a human shouldn't mean picking and choosing what rights they have." It's literally made no sense to me for as long as I can remember that all people aren't afforded rights and healthcare based on arbitrary matters.

    And don't even bring up money (saying this generically, not to you)... money is nothing, human lives are important.

    Think about the people.
     
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    See the documentary film "Happy".....film about the happiest people on earth..it's a great film covering different cultures
     
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    It's been on my list for awhile!
     
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    Great post @Strenuus.

    :smiley-beerchug:
     
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    The video you showed was all about race and he made it a point in his presentation and you made it a point to bring in white privilege.

    Im always happy when people dont allow themselves to become a stereotype. I have no doubt you are a great dad even if you tell your son to be aware of the white devil.
     
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    I liked it. Reminded me that family is more important than money. I kind of combined it with the minimalism documentary.

    I like using my money to do fun things with the family rather than buying us shit we dont need.
     
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