Politics Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    So, the "President of the United States", who swore to uphold a Constitution he has not read, is filing a lawsuit to block an American citizen's free speech? Oi vey.

    Trump could launch nuclear war and Maris would probably still say "phenomenally successful! greatest president ever!"
     
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  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    So because of this book, which is 100% not true according to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House has now banned all cell phones in the West Wing.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    And how we know why phones are banned.

    Scoop: Wolff taped interviews with Bannon, top officials

    https://www.axios.com/how-michael-wolff-did-it-2522360813.html
     
  4. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Nope. Read this.

    "You Can’t Make This S--- Up": My Year Inside Trump's Insane White House

    Author and columnist Michael Wolff was given extraordinary access to the Trump administration and now details the feuds, the fights and the alarming chaos he witnessed while reporting what turned into a new book.

    Editor’s Note: Author and Hollywood Reporter columnist Michael Wolff’s new book, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House (Henry Holt & Co.), is a detailed account of the 45th president’s election and first year in office based on extensive access to the White House and more than 200 interviews with Trump and senior staff over a period of 18 months. In advance of the Jan. 9 publication of the book, which Trump is already attacking, Wolff has written this extracted column about his time in the White House based on the reporting included in Fire and Fury.

    I interviewed Donald Trump for The Hollywood Reporter in June 2016, and he seemed to have liked — or not disliked — the piece I wrote. "Great cover!" his press assistant, Hope Hicks, emailed me after it came out (it was a picture of a belligerent Trump in mirrored sunglasses). After the election, I proposed to him that I come to the White House and report an inside story for later publication — journalistically, as a fly on the wall — which he seemed to misconstrue as a request for a job. No, I said. I'd like to just watch and write a book. "A book?" he responded, losing interest. "I hear a lot of people want to write books," he added, clearly not understanding why anybody would. "Do you know Ed Klein?"— author of several virulently anti-Hillary books. "Great guy. I think he should write a book about me." But sure, Trump seemed to say, knock yourself out.

    Since the new White House was often uncertain about what the president meant or did not mean in any given utterance, his non-disapproval became a kind of passport for me to hang around — checking in each week at the Hay-Adams hotel, making appointments with various senior staffers who put my name in the "system," and then wandering across the street to the White House and plunking myself down, day after day, on a West Wing couch.

    The West Wing is configured in such a way that the anteroom is quite a thoroughfare — everybody passes by. Assistants — young women in the Trump uniform of short skirts, high boots, long and loose hair — as well as, in situation-comedy proximity, all the new stars of the show: Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer, Jared Kushner, Mike Pence, Gary Cohn, Michael Flynn (and after Flynn's abrupt departure less than a month into the job for his involvement in the Russia affair, his replacement, H.R. McMaster), all neatly accessible.

    The nature of the comedy, it was soon clear, was that here was a group of ambitious men and women who had reached the pinnacle of power, a high-ranking White House appointment — with the punchline that Donald Trump was president. Their estimable accomplishment of getting to the West Wing risked at any moment becoming farce.

    A new president typically surrounds himself with a small group of committed insiders and loyalists. But few on the Trump team knew him very well — most of his advisors had been with him only since the fall. Even his family, now closely gathered around him, seemed nonplussed. "You know, we never saw that much of him until he got the nomination," Eric Trump's wife, Lara, told one senior staffer. If much of the country was incredulous, his staff, trying to cement their poker faces, were at least as confused.
     
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    Read the rest here - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...insane-year-inside-trumps-white-house-1071504
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I'm sure it is hilarious. If people were speaking off the record and he prints it he's a piece of shit. Maybe they were too dumb to know it wasn't. The off the record part was in the first link
     
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    From the first link....

    • In some cases, the officials thought they were talking off the record. But what are they going to do now?
     
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    I'm not sure you are interpreting that correctly. I'm not sure I am either, since it is just a bullet without any details or background.

    He may be just saying that it will be harder to call things in the book BS when there are tape recordings. Not that Wolff quoted and attributed off-the-record comments in the book.

    For example, somebody says "this story in the book about me is bullshit". Wolff can say "well, since you bring it up... here's a tape of you telling me that story yourself, dumbass".

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  10. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I interpreted it exactly as written. You're reinterpreting it. Not me.
     
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    Ok. I agree, if he quoted someone who was told they were speaking off the record, that would be bad.

    There don't yet seem to be any specific allegations of that, but maybe there will be.

    Possibly the binding of the book is low quality, and the distribution network is slow. Maybe if we search we will find a typo.

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    then they must not know the difference between tape and records
     
  13. MarAzul

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    "A crime that undermines the offender's government"

    This is bullet number one under the definition of Traitor. Then we have the fact that the President of the United States is responsible for foreign relation.

    How then can a President be a traitor to his own government, or the government he is about to run as the duly elected President?

    Bannon misused the word.
     
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    well.....
    nixon quits.jpg
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Big fan of Nixon, are you?

    "If the president does it, it's not illegal"

    I think you answered your own question at the end. "The government he is about to run". Someone else was running that government at the time.

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    barf, I know you know, that is a piss poor analogy. Nixon ordering a break in and lying to everyone is a crime. Not the same in anyway as a President or his representive having discussions with foreign representative

    But in any case neither the crime you put forth or the discussions are treason.
     
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    Here is why that is important and what it means.

    Suppose someone came up to you and said, "SlyPokerDog told me you told him that you have a micropenis." Now it would be completely normal for you to say, "That is lie! I never said that! I have a giant penis." but if you were to follow up with, "And when I was talking to him I said this was all off the record." guess what, you just admitted to having a micropenis.

    If everything in the book is a lie then what does it matter what was on the record and off the record?
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    It matters if I'm to believe what is written and don't trust the guy writing it.

    If and I say IF people said things off the record and he prints them he's a piece of shit. That's all.
     
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    He wrote a book, didn't see where he was taking anyone to court under oath...he might be a piece of shit, but he gained access to a whole pile of shit...making it takes one to know one come to mind...paparazzi love off the record gossip.....why we wouldn't want transparency in govt is the big question here....cover up after cover up....blind faith is just that...blind faith...if Hillary said something that exposed her off the record, how would you feel then? Pretty sure the pussy grab tape was assumed to be off the record for Trump eh?
     
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    If what is being said is not true then you wouldn't say it was said off the record.

    Here is the timeline from yesterday.

    1. Details of new book about Trump Whitehouse is released.

    2. WH says it's all lies. Everything made up.

    3. Author says he has recordings.

    4. WH says, recordings?!? Then everything was off the record.
     
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