Event My sympathies, Oregonians

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  1. dviss1

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    That's a false choice. You're not choosing between inconvenience and convenience. You're not inconvenienced by waiting an extra minute (literally) to have someone ELSE pump your gas.
     
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    He don't want no liberals or minorities pumping his anything!
     
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    Strawman much? I certainly didn't imply that. But it's like this:

    Those dumbass orange bicycles. They're an idiotic idea because you're gonna have inexperienced riders, on the streets, without helmets, clogging up traffic.

    There's gonna be a learning curve.

    People who never pump their gas will be fine doing it, but acting like initially they won't take longer than the guy who does it all day, every day, is against logic.
     
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    "You keep your nozzle away from my hole!"

    *shakes fist angrily*
     
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    It wouldn't be. It'd be a poor white living in a rural county.
     
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    So, there is a short adjustment period. That's true for any change - and there is no way you can legalize against change - it just happens. It is assumed. But once it is over - it will be more efficient. Trying to pretend it will not is just silly. You move from 2 potential bottlenecks to 1. That's an efficiency upgrade. Simple as that. As long as the adjustment period is short - which it will be, since pumping gas is not complicated - the adjustment period is irrelevant.
     
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    This is an assumption. There is no fact behind your statement. Only your assumption.

    One thing we KNOW it will do is take away a RURAL job from a poor white. Funny how the conservatives are for this. :dunno:
     
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    I do like NOT having to pump my own gas. I did it for years when I was younger working at a car dealership and being in the army. Plus gives guys a job who most likely wouldn’t be able to get one. I always crack myself up when I’m in other states and I pull up to a gas station and just sit there like a fool waiting for somebody to come help me. So this isn’t IN Portland? Just hillbilly areas?
     
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    Of course. I did not study gas station efficiency with proper data. I do however, believe that I can make an educated assumption - given that I have been designing and implementing large-scale systems for over 20 years now - and efficiency is one of the things I deal with day in and day out.

    Basically, unless you can ensure that there is at least one attendant per occupied pump at all times - you are creating a new bottleneck. It's simple math. The moment there is an occupied pump that is not attended by someone - you are in-efficient. Of course, if drivers can pump their own gas - you basically assure that every occupied pump has an available individual to pump that gas.

    Another thing we know is that you are putting a burden on all the poor guys that need to use this station - for waiting and paying for a service that they do not really need. So - are we really creating a benefit here for the population at large? Maybe, maybe not. Hard to tell.
     
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    This is literally a stupid thing to debate when the end result is job loss.
     
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    Dude, if you can get a good, well paying and emmy award winning job anyone who is physically capable of pumping gas could get one.
     
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    How many newspaper delivery boys would there still be in your world?
     
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    No it is not - if the cost of the job on the economy is larger than gain of keeping it afloat. I believe that many on this site will call me a snow-flake liberal - and compared to many - they are not wrong - I have no problems with higher taxes to benefit the poor - but I am against stupid laws that put an unnecessary burden on the population to create a crutch for little benefit.
     
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    Weird post. Humans deliver the paper.
     
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    I'll guess we'll disagree. But to me this is nothing but job loss. There is nothing to be gained in "efficiency" by doing this. Again, it's just a poor white guy in rural Oregon losing his job.
     
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    Not as many as there used to be. Even if there are the point is that jobs come and go.


    How about them coal jobs?

    Checkmate
     
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    Completely wrong. Silly post again. We're still using as much or more refined gasoline as ever. Also, our #1 export? Refined gasoline.

    You are creating a false equivalency between coal jobs and gas pumper jobs. We use coal for different reasons.
     
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    But these jobs are not related to refined gasoline production.

    I believe that the equivalency he is trying to create is that there is a job that is not really needed or beneficial to anyone other than the worker - but the population at large is required to pay for it because of legislation.

    Honestly, If the idea is to create jobs that are not really needed - gas pumping is not even an efficient one. We can make it illegal to carry any store-bought goods to one's car or house by himself - instead have the store hire "goods carriers" - just imagine how many jobs we will create! Of course, trucks should be eliminated - we will need a shit ton of horse drivers and farm-hands to maintain said horses if all goods were to be delivered by a horse drawn carriage - etc.. etc..
     

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