If Chicago picks up his option he loses his no trade clause. I don't believe it'll be an issue though. Mirotic would love Terry's offense. He'd be in an ideal spot to showcase his game, and get paid in 2019.
And on the other side of the coin, do we want Mirotic here with all our other young PFs? Isn't that where Collins (our prized rookie prospect) projects?
I'm not buying the Mirotic hype. He's on an incredible hot streak this year in his 17 games played, but no way is his 17/7 on nearly 47% shooting from 3 sustainable. He's a career 10/5 player on shit percentages who plays mediocre defense. Give Collins a year and he'll be better than that and he can play on both ends of the floor. I'd rather target a wing who can develop into something instead.
I predict... we'll make a trade. the trade won't involve our 1st rounder. It'll either be a value trade, or a cap trade. Olshey will try to sell it as both. I hope... It's for a starter. It's obvious to everyone (especially me) that the new player immediately becomes our 4th best player.
Yea I think in the right deal Mirotic could bring a positive impact to our team but I think there is a chance there will be better players available for the price of a 1st rd pick. I also think that it’s telling that reports were all his teammates took Portis side after Portis gave him the two piece chicken dinner.
Well yeah but that's not until 2019. Collins should be ready to start by then. It'd be a year and a half investment that'd only cost us Harkless and maybe a second or something. Long term it saves Portland money. But if we're talking about giving up a first and paying someone, Jabari would be a much better investment.
Yea it all just depends on what the Bulls can get for him. If all it costs is a second rd pick and Harkless then pull the god damn trigger. But I have a feeling they will get a first from someone, probably the pistons.
Here are some low key wings that I'd much rather pursue: - Kyle Anderson - Kelly Oubre Jr - Bojan Bogdanovic - Taurean Prince - Josh Richardson - Tyreke Evans - Rodney Hood - Caris LeVert - Mario Hezonja And Fournier/Barnes as some more expensive options.
Regarding Utah and Detroit; I can't see either team offering expiring contracts (Detroit doesn't really even have one) PLUS a first rounder for Mirotic. That sounds more like a fantasy scenario for the Bulls. Both teams would have to match salaries since theyre over the cap, so contracts will have to be moved regardless. If I'm Chicago I'd be more interested in Harkless than someone like John Leuer or Alec Burks.
Re: Portland interested in Mirotic rumors: Bulls Young Pieces: Markannen: PF Dunn: PG Portis: PF Lavine: PG Feliciano: C (not necessarily a core piece, but they've make a financial commitment to him) Positions of Need: SF, SG, C Bad Contracts: Absolutely none Wants: 1st rounder If I was the Bulls, I'd want Mo Harkless + a 1st rounder, I'd be willing to take on salary for that. So.... Mo + 1st + Turner + $12.6 mil in space for Mirotic + Valentine Would put us around $9 mil under lux. tax. Use that much to sign a player with our exception. Realistic. Good, but not great. Maybe add Holiday?
I think you're fooling yourself if you don't include Valentine--a first-round pick in his second year--among the "Bulls' young pieces". So far this year, he's been better than Turner--why would they give him up for an inferior, older, more expensive player?
It will be interesting to see how many first round picks will be given away at the trade deadline. I don't see it happening as much as their just too valuable.. at least without great protections. We shall see.
Highest risk/reward: Jabari Most realistic: Mirotic Most Olshey: Beasley, Hernangomez, pretty much any young wing stuck on a bench.
Yeah I like Valentine as well. Listed as a SF/SG around 6'5 or 6'6" , I assume the Bulls do to. But yeah I think Harkless would be a good fit there. I would start Portis and Valentine and have Markkanen and Harkless come off the bench.
Depending on the coach and philosophy (and where their draft pick shakes out this summer), I think there's a decent chance Markkanen ends up being played at center within the next couple years. He's too thin for it now, but I can see him getting up to a solid 250.
Markkanen and Harkless profile well next to eachother actually. Markkanen is more perimeter oriented while Harkless prefers to play closer to the basket. The more I think about it the more sense it makes. The fit (on both sides) is almost as obvious to me as Nurkic was before Portland acquired him. But if we lose out because we didn't include a first, I'd be more than ok with that.
