Interesting. Bazemore would be a marginal upgrade over Harkless and we'd essentially be trading two bad contracts for one REALLY bad contract (like Turner/Crabbe level bad). It would JUST save us enough to get under the tax threshold this season. BNM
KB is a 3 and D guy shooting 38.4 3FG% this year (career 35.5 3FG%). The options look like... Caroll, Burks, Bazemore, and Fournier. Fournier would cost us a lot. Who doe you like?
Of those options, Fournier. He's the kind of consistent 3rd scorer we need and shooting .405 3FG%. I'd love to swap our Evan for theirs, but why would ORL do that? I doubt if they want Harkless back at $10 million a year when gave him to us for nothing two and a half years ago. I'm sure they'd gladly take Ed Davis's expiring contract and maybe Al-Farouq Aminu's contract with only 1.5 years left. That saves them some serious money in the long run, compared to Fournier's deal with 3.5 years left. We'd still have to sweeten the pot with a young player and/or pick. And none of this gets us under the tax threshold... I'm not sure if we have enough (or more accurately are willing to give up enough) to get a deal done. BNM
Parsons for Biebs + ET + Vonleh #s2explodes For everything that's gone wrong, Parsons is shooting .486 FG%, .411 3FG% this year - we could use that.
And Boston doesn't have a surplus of picks? Connaughton has replaced 80% of his production for 8% of the salary. The team was better with Crabby? We're 3 games above .500 right now, we were .500 with Crabbe. Do I necessarily believe we'll get a 1st for Davis? I dunno. But there's defintely a chance. You're acting like there's no chance in hell that he can land a late first, when similar players have earned more in the past. You called me delusional for thinking he's good enough to land a 1st. I used facts to back myself up and you can't even dispute them. I used previous picks in the range to show you how little value those picks have and you can't even dispute that either. So, of course, you spewed more BS "Im gonna expose you when he doesn't land a 1st let's bet money!"... Lmao, stfu.
What facts? I browse over the majority of your posts, sorry if I missed something sweetheart. And yes let’s bet. Put money where your mouth is. You talk like some expert and shit on anyone with a different opinion than your own, so it should be easy money for you.
Maybe you should pay more attention. You could learn a thing or two. I talk like some expert and shit on everyone who disagrees? I literally gave my opinion on Davis' trade value and you called me delusional. Now you're being hypocritical. You do that more than anyone on this forum.
I could actually see Orlando being interested in Harkless. Their new front office comes from Milwaukee and he fits their model. The guys that traded Moe are gone. Fournier and Gordon have some sort of chemistry issue now so I’m pretty sure they’re open to dealing Fournier.
I’m actually starting to think that Rodney Hood could be available at the deadline. Not just because of him knocking the phone out that old dudes hand tonight, which was awesome. But because if you check some of the Jazz forums most of them think the Jazz wouldn’t even want to resign him next year when he’s a RFA. Must be because of behavioral issues because the man can still play. A Shabazz+Swanigan for Hood trade works. Swanigan spent some time in Utah and they need a PF, especially one that’s young and cheap. And Shabazz would probably take the starting job over Rubio eventually or worst case just give them some needed scoring.
Hmm I actually like that idea a lot. He’s not perfect and he has an injury history, but I would love him as our sixth man and he could probably close out games with Dame and CJ as well.
Oh I think he would be our starting 3 for sure. He’s 6’8 with a long reach. He can handle as well, if not better, than ET and shoots the shit out the 3. I’d love him alongside Dame and CJ.
I guess the question is how much would he get in free agency? If we traded Napier for him we’d probably have to dump Vonleh somewhere else as well, no? Actually I could see Utah being interested in Vonleh more than Biggie. Would you still do it?
Yea the lack of quality forwards in the NBA probably means he will get paid. Shit they could Vonleh and Swanigan if they wanted lol, although we would have to take something back. Aminu and Collins have that position filled in my eyes. My fear is if he is put on the block someone will give them a first and that’s where it gets a little questionable for me.
Rubio+Hood for Shabazz+Swanigan+ET and our 1st would get us under the tax. Giving up our first makes me hesitant but that’s probably what makes it realistic. They signed Rubio to try and convince Hayward to stay anyways, and he would be a great back up PG for us. Bazz, Mitchell, Gobert some young players and 2 firsts in this draft is a nice little building block. They aren’t going anywhere as constructed and historically that franchise relies almost solely on the draft. I think they would go for it and I think we would too honestly.
Players I'd want to target (In order of most to least): Wings: Evan Fournier Tyreke Evans Jae Crowder Johnathan Simmons Rodney Hood Courtney Lee Mario Herzonja Bigs: Blake Griffin Nikola Mirotic Julius Randle Kyle O'Quinn Willy Hernangomez Derrick Favors
Nah I don't want Rubio near this team. Dude is hot garbage as a player. Less than 5apg, 40% FGs, and 30% 3s this year.. I like the idea though, here's something better IMO (two seperate deals that would be a 3-team trade): Trade 1: UTA Gets: Napier, Turner, 2019 POR 1st, POR Gets: Rodney Hood, Joe Johnson, Naz Long, Raul Neto *We could include Swanigan if they wanted him* Trade 2: POR Gets: Tyreke Evans, Chandler Parsons MEM Gets: Noah Vonleh, Joe Johnson, Maurice Harkless, Raul Neto, 2019 MIN/LAL 2nd - Memphis gets a young SF & PF who fits their style of play+ two 2nd rounders (one likely a high 2nd in 2019) for an expiring Evans and a bad contract in Parsons (who is actually playing decent but doesn't fit on a Memphis team that's struggling and owes Gasol and Conley a ton of money). *Could try to include Meyers for Brandon Wright if MEM would still take it but I doubt they would* Both trades in one: UTA Gets: Napier, Turner, 2019 POR 1st MEM Gets: Vonleh, Johnson, Harkless, Neto, 2019 MIN/LAL 2nd POR Gets: Hood, Evans, Parsons Our rotation afterwards: Lillard (35) / McCollum (13) McCollum (22) / Evans (26) Hood (24) / Parsons (24) Aminu (28) / Davis (20) Nurkic (32) / Collins (18) That's a pretty good team with an added dynamic scoring threat (Hood), a 3rd ball handler replacement for the departing Napier and Turner in Evans (who's better than both), and a shooter with some all-around offensive talent in Parsons. The team also sheds enough money to get under the tax line and turns Turner's and Harkless' contracts (totaling $28M a year) into a more productive Parsons ($23M a year).
Rubio has been especially bad this year but hes a career 8 ast per game guy, his numbers are mostly down because Quinn Snyder’s offense sucks and so does that roster. He’s about as bad as ET, slightly better imo, but on a shorter and better contract and he wouldn’t be playing starters minutes like ET does so he would have less of an impact. Trust me, he’s not a player I covet either but he’s about on par with most backup PG’s and these are the type of compromises you usually have to make to be mutually beneficial. Rodney Hood’s skill set could really work with us. With those additions I would have a hard time saying our roster would be any worse than our 53 win roster, and built better for the long term. It’s an interesting scenario.
I think my scenario is pretty realistic though, and I think it's better. Just can't come around to the idea of Rubio playing any minutes here.
This is a great list... I would love to trade for any of these players except for Lee and O’Quinn... I would also add Saric
