OT Florida School Shooting

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  1. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    You have detective instinct!
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    With one side of your mouth, you complain about conservatives and solutions. With the other you won't read the solutions offered by conservatives or the arguments for/against the possibilities.

    That's simply not smart.
     
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    That's not why there are 300 million guns in this country. Think about it
     
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    I am not even a liberal. I understand you feel you need to lash out. Try having a discussion without having a meltdown.
     
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    How about providing students the same amount of security provided in a hospital ICU, Police Dept, Gas attendant, radio station and others. Have one entrance that you must buzz in and be let through. If you have no business there, you do not get in. This and a couple of armed security guards. and that would solve a lot of problems.
     
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    Here Are 7 Animals Hunters Kill Using an AR-15

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    After the Orlando nightclub shooting, Democrats criticized the routine sale of the type of semiautomatic rifle used by Omar Mateen. Hillary Clinton called them “weapons of war.” Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin said that if you used a gun like the AR-15 — or the similar Sig Sauer used in Orlando — to go hunting “you should stick to fishing.”

    But many gun owners say they use semiautomatic rifles to hunt regularly.

    In interviews with TIME, leaders of 15 state shooting groups said semiautomatic rifles are popular with hunters in their states. Hunters say they favor the gun for its versatility, accuracy and customizable features for shooting animals. The semiautomatic feature, which allows these guns to shoot up to 45 rounds a minute, is not always necessary, but useful in some situations, hunters say.

    “These are not scary black rifles,” Chambers told TIME. “These are very useful tools for hunting.”
     
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    So let's put a band aid on the problem and not do anything to prevent it...

    That doesn't solve one problem. It only helps after the fact.
     
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    There were good guys with guns at Columbine. Lots of good they did.
     
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    The charts you do not like, and even the one you posted, show that "prevention" is impossible.

    EVERYTHING is a band aid.
     
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    Oh, I was under the belief that you wanted solutions to solving school shootings.
     
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    that is only one leg of the table, you need to incorporate all of the system to make it work.
     
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    Whoa! That is a totally un inform post.
    You must live in a very high crime place to have cop on call within a response time that is meaningful. Damn near all of Oregon is outside of where the cops will come on demand before you are cold. Relying on the police for protection is a fools mission.
     
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    well, I suppose instead of just medicating kids from kindergarten on up with Prozac we could euthanize them...eliminate all the problem children...
     
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    I think that when a teenager is in high school, he can be influenced by vid games, movies and lastly internet bullshit. If he is deemed as a loner and isolated, then all the ingredients stir and produce a hostile kid who hates humans rather than authority. Its a test to them. They are typically loners or have one insane friend. They distance themselves, acquire weapons and use logistics to their advantage. When I went to high school, I never had the media influences. Pagers were not invented! Eight track players were limited to a car and were enjoyed being in an accepted group trying to get away with pranks and getting high.
    Participating in a clique, you felt acceptance. These crazed kids have no social connection to harness human care and curtesy. If the kid is sick in the head, what could be done?. Only a school board can have resources to solve these dilemmas.
     
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    Right. One of those legs needs to be making sure mentally ill don't get guns.

    Sorry, common sense says if you're crazy you don't get to have a gun.

    Problem is I'm not sure how many cons would pass the psych eval. Sociopathy is a mental disorder.
     
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    Everyone saw the signs with this kid.

    My son and I have been discussing this in depth. I told him to be kind and generous to everyone he meets. Be a friend and advocate to all. Be the kid that would get passed over by the shooter because he/she knew you weren't part of the people oppressing them. HELP them if you can. Stick up for the downtrodden. Show them actual love.
     
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    Holy Shit! Big D and I are in agreement on a point!

    There are already laws that attempt to keep guns out of the hands of those proven to have issues. Sadly, there is no crystal ball that predicts just who will be a threat. Just because some one has a tough start in life does not indicate that they will become a problem.
     
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    Internalize much? I never once called you Conservative.
     
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    You are a good, no make that great father!
     
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    Here is a telling sign, your son has a good father that is involved in his life. This happens to be an exception now day, rather than the rule.
     
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