Okay. So why hasn't the war on drugs worked? According to this article, we have spent $1 trillion dollars on the War on Drugs. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/opinion/branson-end-war-on-drugs/index.html We outlawed the drugs. We convict people who use and/or sell drugs. Has that effort not worked because we just "didn't want to very badly?"
Yeah, that's why the rest of the world has no school shootings - they all have schools that look like American airports.
If we outlaw flamethrowers, then only outlaws will have flamethrowers! There's no point in banning smoking in public places, nobody will go for it! Oh what's the point? Arguing about this shit never convinces anyone. Progress only happens generationally. And thankfully, judging by all the kids from the Florida highschool speaking up, the NRA's days are numbered.
Yes, definitely. And for other reasons too. What percentage of the population was willing to buy and use illegal drugs? A pretty big percentage. What percentage of the population would be willing to buy and use illegal guns? Probably a much smaller percentage. barfo
The rest of the world isn't the United States. The magnitude of gun ownership in the US dwarfs any other country. I already cited that Australia was able to collect 600,000 guns, which was roughly half the guns in the country at that time. According to this, England estimated that there was 187,000 handguns in public hands, and they collected 162,000. It's just a completely different problem when you consider the number of guns in America. It's not going to be as easy to achieve. https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/world/gun-control-uk-australia/index.html https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmhaff/95/9507.htm
It's not necessarily about buying illegal guns, as it would be about hiding guns they already own. I think you'd be surprised, or maybe you wouldn't, with how many people consider the second amendment the line in the sand with the government.
Congratulations on being the first person to post hyperbole! I think people are having a nice discussion in this thread. Nobody is insulting anyone.
Media attention. Stop covering the school shootings for let’s say three years and i guarantee you it slows way down. But in the meantime I want gun reform.
Sadly, I don't think the media will ever stop, and those shootings continue to get the attention that these people are looking for. We still talk about Columbine, we still talk about Sandy Hook, we still talk about Aurora. I don't remember the names of the shooters, but I remember the names of the schools.
I see a lot of the same stuff that have been discussed ad nauseam. The parallel with regulations on cars isn't really applicable, in my opinion. Most of the changes that he mentions are aimed at making cars safer for the people riding in them. Seat belts. Better structural design. The changes to cars wasn't to prevent people from getting them, it was to make their use safer. Realistically, I would bet most guns don't get much use. The ones that I have are sitting in my closet and have been for the past few years. People don't typically buy a car and just put it in the garage for years. And if they did, they don't typically have to insure it. If it's just sitting in your garage, you don't need to register the car. You don't need to insure the car. You only need to do those things if you want to drive on public roads. Similarly, you have to take a class, apply, and get approved to carry a gun in public. The problem with guns is not them failing. It's not a structural problem. They're working as intended. The problem is with the operators. If we were talking about taking cars away from people, in addition to making it harder to get a license, then the analogy would be a good one. Can you imagine banning cars and having to suddenly collect all the cars in America?
I wouldn't be surprised, and I totally agree with you that we currently lack the collective will to do this. That doesn't make it impossible, but it does mean minds need to be changed first. barfo
If they commit crimes as a group, they're a gang. If they have common views that they peacefully support and discuss, they are lawful citizens and possibly a political party.
I read an article that said there are 88.9 guns to every 100 americans now.....that's more than Pakistan, Mexico or Gaza and the West Bank...we're armed to the teeth here....
Stephen King line comes to mind about guns....if you need more than ten rounds to defend yourself, you need to get back on the practice range
Huge increase during Obama years of fear-mongering, race-baiting and hate-America political agenda. Dropped off significantly after Trump became President. Canada, and many Euros about as prevalent per capita.
Can be a myriad of things...diet...insomnia,,abuse...paranoia...depression..low self esteem...anger...hormonal imbalance...dementia..or simply 15 minutes of fame, suicide by law enforcement officer.....it's a long list. I worked with vets when I got back from war...some folks have stronger stomachs than others for horror....I would have made a good doctor on that side, not queasy about trauma or blood
