I heard this on the TV local news yesterday. It was a Democrat that said it, the interviewer said, As a Democrat why do you said this? I don't know who he was nor did I get to hear his explaination. The TV receptions went to hell for that part. Oh well, it must be true. There have not been any dams built in decades and they all need cleaned out too. As California enters another official drought again, what a future? Has anyone got any insight into this Democrat position? It seems like group suicide to me! https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01...dams-and-reservoirs-in-california-hit-hurdle/
To be honest, i think the nationt would be a better place if that state dried up. I think we should allow elpres safe passage to a real state.
The way the LA area got it's water was seriously fucked up and illegal as hell. Heck. It inspired what I think is the best screenplay of all time.... Chinatown. And there have been other areas of California that have taken drastic measures to insure water despite various environmental concerns. I am not surprised that when facing massive climate changes.... they are well, fucked.
Climate change is Gods way of eliminating liberals? Praise the LORD! I just epmtied 2 cans of lysol in worship.
There have been some serious changes since the days when I previously lived in Southern California. Ventura County was always farm country, now it is mixture of Celebrity residential and farm country with the small cities supporting both. The recent big fire, burned down Johnny Cash's home! But heck, he no longer needed it anyway. I guess Oprah was blocked out of her home for a while, due to mud slides caused by rain run off unimpeded. But the big bulk of the population is farm workers and domestic workers. Might not be enough water to keep the Oxnard plains productive this coming year. Man that is a lot of people working those crops, Strawberrys, Oranges, veggies! Oxnard is about 170 thousand people, almost 70 percent Hispanic, and I hear, a very high percentage of illegals. Years ago drag racing became very popular in So Cal, but often done out of harms way, in the dry but concreted in river beds. The Hispanic kids are doing it in the streets here in Oxnard. Some pretty cool machines too, reminds me of the 50s in that way. Well anyway, one of these drags, achieved the predictable result last weekend. One lost control and went through a yard, severely injuring a six year old girl. According to the local Oxnard news, he is in jail on 75K bail. The next comment just grabbed me! He probably won't get deported though since he is in Ventura County!!! Well that's that, just the way it is. Not sure how we got here but here we are. Where are we going? How can you be for unlimited uncontrolled immigration, but at the same time against the development of infrastructure to support the population growth. The return of the drought to the Oxnard plains will threaten thousand of jobs these people depend on. Do they really know what sort of leadership the Democrats bring??? Does creating sanctuaries really mean better leadership that creating dams to hold rain run off to grow food? How can a Democrat win with this sort of nonsense?
I was walking down the street and heard someone passing say "...and I won't stand for it, I just won't. If he wants..." This is outrageous! Obviously the rest of their conversation was exactly how I imagined it, so somebody needs to do something! barfo
As a SoCal resident I obviously disagree, but honestly, this state is responsible for a huge amount of the agriculture and produce that this country uses. 2/3 of the fruit and nuts that the US consumes comes from California. This requires water, acreage and sun. California can supply the acreage and sun. It only seems reasonable that the rest of the country will be willing to provide water for all this produce that it consumes. It's not like California is some kind of a financial drag on the country either, it is the largest tax payer in the country by more than a 100 billion per year over the 2nd largest tax state (Texas) and for every federal tax dollar paid by a California resident - less than a dollar comes back (something you can not say for Oregon which receives more federal support than the taxes it provides) - so, spare me the "California is bad" nonsense because it is a liberal state. We pay for what we receive - well more than many others. I assure you that if California received as much as it gives - it's residents will come out ahead, not the other way around.
Driving down through the central valley last month, I saw a great number of those large patches of trees, nuts I suspect, were dead. It seems they quit watering them??
I have no idea specifically, but I believe there are many cases where they stop watering some stuff when it does not make sense. We live in Avocado country - Avocados as you know require tons of water - the orchard next to our neighborhood certainly stopped watering a section and allowed some trees to dies - In their case, I believe it is done based on the age of the trees, after some time - trees stop giving enough fruit and it just makes sense to stop watering them and replacing them later with younger ones. FWIW - We have a couple of old Avocado trees in our yard - and at this point they give very few Avocados per year. Maybe at some point I will replace them. On the other hand, we have way too many lemons than what we expected. Our lemon trees are constantly bearing fruit and so much of it - it is absurd (we actually removed one of them and gave it to a friend - because we have too many).
My freind in Ojai has an Avocado tree in his yard. He quit watering it and his whole yard a number of years back. It seems the population of California has just overwhelmed the ability of the infrastructure to support the people and farming. Oh By the way, I did note that huge patches of trees left to die were but half grown. Small and dead. Hard to imagine the owner did this as a prudent course of action.
Well said! Droughts are nothing new to California. There were much longer and severe ones here for a millennia. California's produce industry was built upon smartly planned distribution of water. Even in periods of drought in the 1800s and 1900s. What's changed? How the water is managed and continued planning. The vitality of California's industries has taken a back seat to other concerns. I'm not sure this governing philosophy is sustainable. Sure, California currently is rich by many measures. But how rich will we be if we run the movie and TV business out of LA? It's already in progress. How rich will we be if the central valleys' farms and orchards are denied water so they turn to desert?
I would not be surprised if this was just another business that ran into problems - it happens everywhere including ranching. I honestly do not know if there are any planned water issues that required it - I can ask my wife, while she is mostly in the energy industry - she sits on a board of a group that also deals with water issues, she might know. I almost became an Avocado gentleman rancher - there was a property and house we loved that had 3 acres of an Avocado orchard - and the orchard was basically leased to a company that did all the farming and collection. Really wanted that place, unfortunately, no way to get fast enough internet there for my work - and we had to pass on it - but it was really cool.
I heard they finally had some kind of a plan for the Salton sea and Imperial county - not sure about the central valley. FWIW - Anyone that is interested in the water issues should really go and visit the Salton sea, it is a fascinating area.
When I finally arrived at the boat last month, the Santa Barbara Channel was brown with mud run off. Over in the central valley, west of Bakersfield, I had to get off I-5 because it was raining too hard to drive. Just sat it out in a motel until the next day. That is when the mud side wiped out Montecito where Oprah lives. The river beds normally dang near dry were all full, water rushing to the sea. Dang! Only one reservoir in sight, all the way from Bakersfield to Oxnard. I know of another up by Ojai.
We sell to many of the farmers in the Central Valley. A lot of those down there are almonds. They've been doing a bunch of water reduction (almonds are like avocados sound, water hogs) measure, but honestly the bee profileration (specifically, the lack of bees) is really hurting the almond folks, b/c they almost literally can't be hand-pollinated. You need bees to have almonds.
I live really close to the Salton Sea. We were inundated with a gazillion of these harmless Boatmen bugs from the Salton Sea last summer. As far as the water goes... Of all people, Devin Nunes is one of the leaders in promoting means of more access to water.
Very true. Need bees for lots of things. I don't have enough in Oregon to get my few fruit trees pollinated. No shortage of water, no bees!
The last time I drove by the Salton Sea, several years ago now, it was painful! What a stink! There were dead fish everywhere washed up ashore. I mean it was really foul!. Not enough water I was told, too salty and no oxygen. So how is this good water story?
