Politics Florida school shooting: Armed officer 'did not confront killer'

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  1. H.C.

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    Small like those trying to 'put it out there' that there are paid actors, not survivors of the florida shooting talking to the news?
    Or
    Small like those who are telling the kids walking out of class to get back in school and stop protesting?

    going by the 2016 count, nearly 4.1m people in oregon.
    68%(% of oregonians who voted in the 2016 election) of 4million is 2.75m
    55/45 to pass the bill to allow guns in schools.
    55% of 2.75 is 1512500.
    Half of that is around 750k. I wouldn't characterize 750k people a minority.
     
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    His cowardice is monumental. If you have a job to do, do it! God Damn it!
     
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    I agree with this. Several years ago I worked with a couple of school districts, school boards, and over 100 teachers.

    Schools will sooner allow security guards who are fully trained rather than asking teachers (or allowing them) to bring firearms on campus. There is so much liability for a teacher as it is.
     
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    The man is a coward and a disgrace. First responders run into the fires, not away from them.

    I don't think anyone has suggested all teachers be armed. Only those who need the strawman to prop up their arguments.

    The idea is to allow the few qualified ones to choose to be armed. There may be no qualified teachers (in more ways than one, sadly).

    The deterrent is a shooter doesn't know which teacher is armed (or teachers, if any).

    Plus you have a chance an armed teacher can do more than just be a human shield in these situations.

    As is, gun free zones, the shooters are sure they won't face much opposition, if at all.

    Something to think about is that those who are armed probably stop far more incidents than some would even consider. You don't hear about them on the news because what could have been a killing situation fizzled out or turned into nothing.
     
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    I would think the insurance spike for an armed teacher in a school would bankrupt the payroll...
     
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    All points are straight on! The bottom line is that the Assault rifles are not meant to be in the hands of the general public, whatever profession they carry. Trump's idea of 21 and over for purchase still placates the NRA. They are weak and putrid politicians. Unfortunately, scores of this weapon type are out there in the possession of criminals/gangs. The entire world must perceive us as rampant violent insane people.
     
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    Again, the kids are pretty quickly going to figure out which teachers are armed. The teacher would be carrying the gun on them. Having it anywhere else is a giant security problem and defeats the purpose of having armed teachers.
     
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    Well;....That proves he's a dick head.
     
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    you disrespect a whole lot of great teachers...probably to prop up your argument?
     
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    The hundreds of districts which already permit teachers to arm themselves would suggest otherwise.
     
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    But not law abiding citizens because assault weapons were banned in the 80s.
     
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    Youd be surprised how many people have a gun on them when you go to the grocery store. There are great holsters out there that conceal things quite nicely
     
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    I wouldn't know..but I've worked in a few schools in the states and have yet to know of one which allows this practice...I think it's a bad idea across the board
     
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    Actially he might not have one anymore
     
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    Understood, and of course it's your right to feel that way. However it's always good to understand the opposing point of view as well. The LA Times article I linked earlier in this thread has a lot of interesting information in regard to this topic.
     
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    Yes, I know that but eventually students would see it.
     
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    More often than not these days, people who decry the public ownership of "assault weapons" are not adhering to the strict definition of "automatic" firearms, but are referring to semi-automatic rifles as well. I think there's definitely an argument to be made that there's little reason for average citizens to need SLR's. An argument many on the other side would disagree with and even dismiss, but a valid argument nonetheless.
     
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    Oh....a dickless wonder.
     
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    Was it not restricted to magazine stock?
     
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