Politics FBI ‘investigating whether Russian money went to NRA’s campaign to help elect Donald Trump’

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So on the one hand, you've got Trump's campaign chair and deputy engaging in bank fraud during the campaign.

    On the other hand, you've got MarAzul saying the real scandal is that they weren't allowed to get away with it.

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  2. SlyPokerDog

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    Sometimes good guys have to do bad things.
     
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  3. MARIS61

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    The blood of schoolchildren on their hands, they continue their coup.
     
  4. MarAzul

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    These endless investigations with out clear evidence of a crime, allegations only by the political opposition exposed a hole in our system.
    If you can investigate endlessly for evidence of a crime, and you are never required to seek the approval of a judge, this is a an error in the system.
    In our federal system the investigations and prosecutions are conducted by the executive branch which is of course headed by the President.
    He of course can not be arrested for subsequent prosecution, he can only be impeached, so no judge is require to issue an order for his arrest.
    He can not (by liberal opinion) interfere with and investigations, so and investigation can proceed indefinitely with out any oversight in the chain of command responsible to the people.

    Multiple investigations without evidence can proceed endlessly and it appears this is exactly the game in progress.

    Where does prosecution or investigation in hope of prosecution, get check from becoming persecution?
    Persecution with Sedition being the intent?

    Bad hole in this system.
     
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  5. South East

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    Am I missing something??? Didn’t people plead guilty to a crime and both memos released stated that a federal judge approved the warrants for wiretapping. To say it’s an endless investigation with no crime seems false. Ultimately it looks like they have been investigating people who have committed crimes and they are following the trail.

    You can say they have a preconceived endgame if you feel inclined but to say there has been no crime...

    They haven’t even talked to Trump so how can it be said there is no proof of a crime? I’m sure that would help wrap it up.
     
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    It's an endless investigation with no crime.

    Here's the crime. They really ought to throw leaders of this group in prison if they are found to be maliciously using the legal system over conspiracy theories proven to be not true.

    Consider the source of the complain.

    Jan 29:

    https://www.npr.org/2018/01/29/5814...en-nra-and-russia-becomes-fodder-for-the-left

    A liberal group is filing a complaint with the Federal Election Commission on Monday to demand an investigation into whether the National Rifle Association took contributions from Russians, which would be a violation of the law.

    The American Legal Democracy Fund, a group with ties to liberal Super PAC American Bridge and headed by former DNC spokesman Brad Woodhouse, filed this complaint in response to reporting by McClatchy earlier this month. The report indicated the FBI is investigating whether a Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the NRA in order to aid President Donald Trump's campaign.
     
  7. MarAzul

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    Remember when it was the joke about town, when Trump said, we have been wiretapped?

    NO! never happened! The clown doesn't even know wiretapping does not happen in this day!

    But not the guy that was wire tapped you find as prove of evidence. A guy swept up as a result of an investigation without evidence, but a wiretap was ordered, then an American was unmasked. Then the info is leaked, a crime, perhaps the only damn crime. WTF????
    I suspect if there was ever reason to lie to the FBI, this would be the time to tell them to GFY and let that serve as the lie. Weird shit happening here
    You can not be compelled to incriminate yourself which means for damn sure you can lie, but not to the FBI? Find that in the 5th! Then the only reason he is here is due to leaks about his unmasking in a wiretap when no evidence has supported causes. I find it totally unacceptable and I want the lot of them in fucking jail for one hell of a long spell.
     
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    I think you aren't paying attention to the facts. Unmasking has literally nothing to do with this. The FBI started its investigation because of the actions of the Trump campaign staff, not because of any unmasking.

    As for the lack of evidence, you seem confused about how law enforcement and warrants work. The standard is probable cause, not proof. If they already had proof they wouldn't ever need a warrant. And they definitely did have probable cause...

    Good news - the 'lot of them' are going to be in fucking jail. Bad news for you - 'them' is Trump campaign staff, not law enforcement.

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    Yes, yes! Do you remember laughing your dumb ass off about Trump Saying they were Wiretapped?
     
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    Yes I do. And I still am laughing, but now I'm laughing at you.

    If you haven't noticed, nobody except Carter Page was wiretapped (so far as we know now), and Carter Page was not part of the campaign at that point.

    So basically you are claiming that Trump saying he was wiretapped really meant 'a guy who used to work for me and is a Russian stooge was later wiretapped'.

    That's pretty thin biscuit, even for a sailing man.

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    i agree, anyone wasting taxpayer dollars chasing down conspiracy theories should be thrown in jail.
     
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  12. South East

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    Cool plead the 5th and try your luck in a court case. I really can’t believe you would say lying to the FBI is a good choice. If you have done nothing wrong there is no need to lie. Telling them you are not going to answer is not a lie. Lawyer up and work on your defense.
     
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    didn't Drump claim that his microwave was spying on him.? lmao! If Minnesota is the land of 10,000 lakes then Drump is the man of 10,000 lies.
     
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  14. MarAzul

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    HeyCup!
    So you are a disgruntled loser?
    Ha! Well it does not surprise me.
    Now you must endure, the unendurable!
    I sure am pleased not to be in that fix.

    Note.
    I decided to reinsert the line above about the disgruntled loser that SLY edited out.
    I don't see it as a personal insult, more accurately a truthful observation. It can not be that we citizens that are please with the election results, must endure all these disgruntled losers coming into the forum, slandering the President with all manner of offensive language. While I can agree not to call them them in like kind language, I will not be denied labeling it truthfully. Sore disgruntled loser. Much less egregious than cuck!
    @Denny Crane
    @bodyman5000 and 1
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    @SlyPokerDog
    @PtldPlatypus
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    You may also note the same loser usage was use by the next response, unedited by Sly.

    If this is not acceptable then I believe you should have Sly bann MarAzul as the fitting way to shut him up.
     
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  15. CupWizier

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    The crime is a foreign country meddling in our election. Are you okay with that? Investigators investigate to find out who is responsible and with all the connections Drump and his family and friends have ties to Russia it is definitely worth investigating. If Drump and his people are so innocent why are they trying desperately to end the investigation? What about this new information of "Russian" troops who were financed by one of the Russian oligarchs with very close ties to Putin and attacked USA troops and not a rumble form the clown in the oval office.. You okay with that marzy?
     
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  16. MarAzul

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    BTW here is how the MarAzul finished out. Not sure if you had seen posting of it or not. Excuse me if it is a repeat.
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    MarAzul in Neah Bay.
     
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    loser? lol, we're all losers. Just a very concerned American. and at most it will be less than 3 more years before the next election (if he makes it that far, lol) The big losers are the ones that turn a blind eye to the idiot in the oval office that thinks he can ruin a country through twitter. The guy comes across as someone with an IQ barely over 50 and has the speaking ability of the 8th grade level. Don the Con has pulled the wool over your eyes.
     
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  18. MarAzul

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    Yeah well, go chat with riverman. You two are a pair.
     
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    Well played. Took a page right out of your heroes book. When pressed, dodge and deflect, lol. Why are you so afraid of the election being investigated? Are that much of a diehard republican that you believe and back anything that the biggest liar we have ever had as president? The difference between me and you is that I never affiliated myself with a party and left it open to use my own values and brain to decide what I like and don;t like. I have always hated the party system where politicians vote their party rather than their state they represent. Maybe you should give it a try.
     
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