Zach Collins Post-ASG

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  1. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    If one were an idiot, all they would look at is draft position and shooting stats.
     
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    Agree
     
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    I think that Draymond thought he was going to be able to feast on Zach, and that he was quickly going to be able to get into the rook's head. Almost like what Garnett would try to do to rookies(on a lesser extent, no barking on the ground). And was likely surprised to find Zach didn't completely wilt when pressed up high by him.
     
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    Agree.

    Draymon actually had nice things to say about the Blazers after the game:
     
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    You really should not have capitalized that word.
     
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    His PER was like -12 in December so it’s a matter of time more than anything.
     
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    I'm not sure we can afford to give Ed anywhere close to that. Nurk will get more then Ed, as he should since he is younger with much more upside then Ed and imo better then Ed atm as well, and i'm not sure Nurkic will get a contract bigger then Meyers or Hark from anyone except us.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Nope, he's a Blazer and it better stay that way !
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't think the money is going to matter. Re-signing him is going to certainly put us into the LT by a lot. Losing him would be a significant loss. The better we do this season, the more pressure there is to not only keep the roster as intact as possible, but to add key pieces to it, where possible.

    Collins would be 25 when a 5 year Nurk contract ended; Nurk would be 28. FWIW. Not a bad problem to have.

    Davis and Collins are an excellent PF/C combo off the bench in the meantime.

    Yeah, I think we should re-sign Ed Davis, too.
     
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    Zach has been really good in the post ASG games.
     
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    I am not sure we can afford not to. He is as important as Nurk is at the moment, probably around the 3rd or 4th most important player on the team. (Top 5 for sure)

    Sure Nurk has more upside and needs to be re-signed too, but it's not like he showed a lot of improvement from last year. I personally believe Nurk will improve, but we can't slight Ed by not giving him "anywhere close" to what Hark or Meyers make.
     
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    Is there a PER by month recorded anywhere? I imagine Zach's chart would show a pretty steep incline, aside from struggling a bit in Feb.
     
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    Before renouncing players there is a total of 5 teams with over 5m in capspace and only one team with over 10. I don't think it'll be a slight to Ed to give him close to 10m a year, if it is we can just tell him to go find his deal and we will offer him the same, I just don't see a team giving ED a lot of money this summer http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/.
     
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    As much as I want Aminu OUT of the starting line-up, I agree...for now. However, immediately after the season ends Zach becomes our starting PF.
     
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    10 million a year is what I was saying. You said not anywhere close to that......
     
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    No way Ed Davis gets 10m a year. Most teams will be over the cap, especially teams that would want Davis (playoff squads)

    Even $8m is a stretch. That’s what guys like Tyreke Evans should go for.
     
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    If we could just transfer ET money to Nurk ... We have 2 more years of ET after this season?
     
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    OK good. So then is Nurk in the same boat?
     
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    Nurk is younger so that could interest a rebuilding team. I can’t see Portland not matching though, regardless what he gets. I don’t think he’ll get more than $15m per which is a bargain when you consider Steven Adams makes 25.
     
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    If nobody else is offering Ed $10M we shouldn't either - can't base his pay off the bad contracts of his teammates. I think his current contract is pretty much ideal. He should get an Aminu-level deal (slight raise). I'd say we should keep Ed/Bazz at a combined $15M or less. Then look to dump Aminu for a future pick so that only one of the Ed/Bazz contracts impacts payroll.
     
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