OT US Army veteran who served two tours in Afghanistan deported to Mexico following drug conviction

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    A US Army veteran who served two tours in Afghanistan has been deported to Mexico, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement said.

    The deportation follows an earlier decision by US authorities to deny Miguel Perez’s citizenship application because of a felony drug conviction, despite his service and the PTSD he says it caused.

    Perez, 39, was escorted across the US-Mexico border from Texas and handed over to Mexican authorities Friday, ICE said in a statement.

    Perez, his family and supporters, who include Sen. Tammy Duckworth of Illinois, had argued that his wartime service to the country had earned him the right to stay in the United States and to receive mental health treatment for the PTSD and substance abuse.

    “This case is a tragic example of what can happen when national immigration policies are based more in hate than on logic and ICE doesn’t feel accountable to anyone,” Duckworth said in a statement following reports of Perez’s deportation. “At the very least, Miguel should have been able to exhaust all of his legal options before being rushed out of the country under a shroud of secrecy.”

    Perez was born in Mexico and legally came to the United States at age 8 when his father, Miguel Perez Sr., a semi-pro soccer player, moved the family to Chicago because of a job offer, Perez told CNN earlier. He has two children born in the United States. His parents and one sister are now naturalized American citizens, and another sister is an American citizen by birth.

    It’s a complicated case. Perez has said that what he saw and experienced in Afghanistan sent his life off the rails, leading to heavy drinking, a drug addiction and ultimately to his felony conviction.

    “After the second tour, there was more alcohol and that was also when I tried some drugs,” Perez said last month. “But the addiction really started after I got back to Chicago, when I got back home, because I did not feel very sociable.”

    In 2010, he was convicted in Cook County, Illinois, on charges related to delivering more than 2 pounds of cocaine to an undercover officer. He was sentenced to 15 years and his green card was revoked. He had served half his sentence when ICE began deportation proceedings. He had been in the agency’s custody since 2016.

    Perez has said he was surprised to be in ICE detention and mistakenly believed that enlisting in the Army would automatically give him US citizenship, according to his lawyer, Chris Bergin. His retroactive application for citizenship was denied earlier this month. While there are provisions for expediting troops’ naturalization process, a main requirement is that the applicant demonstrate “good moral character,” and the drug conviction was enough to sway the decision against his application, Bergin said.

    Perez enlisted in the Army in 2001, just months before 9/11. He served in Afghanistan from October 2002 to April 2003 and again from May to October 2003, according to his lawyer. He left the Army in 2004 with a general discharge after he was caught smoking marijuana on base.

    Perez went on a hunger strike earlier this year, saying he feared deportation would mean death. Aside from not getting the treatment he needs, he told CNN that he fears Mexican drug cartels will try to recruit him because of his combat experience and will murder him if he doesn’t cooperate.

    “If they are sentencing me to a certain death, and I am going to die, then why die in a place that I have not considered my home in a long time?” he asked.

    http://fox13now.com/2018/03/25/us-a...deported-to-mexico-following-drug-conviction/
     
  2. bodyman5000 and 1

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    Ambivalent. That is all I can say. Don't know the guy. Anyone who got caught up in these stupid wars gets my sympathy but I don't know enough about him.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Illl sum it up in one word =DISGUSTING
     
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    Selling two pounds of coke is a good reason for a deportation.
    "In 2010, he was convicted in Cook County, Illinois, on charges related to delivering more than 2 pounds of cocaine to an undercover officer. He was sentenced to 15 years and his green card was revoked. He had served half his sentence when ICE began deportation proceedings. He had been in the agency’s custody since 2016."
     
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    I got to that part and thought fuck him but then thought about how the drug agents get people to do that stuff so without knowing the details I'm not sure about it. The guy doesn't seem too bright anyway.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Maybe not too bright, but he risked his life for us so we could sleep safe and sound.
     
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    This is a tough one lanny, but the law is the law and we can't turn our head on illegal activities just because the guy served in the armed services. It appears he wasn't just using, but actually distributing.
     
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    Well, seems like he risked his life thinking he'd become a citizen automatically. He had my support for joining the military. I don't know the guy and his personality or circumstances.

    If he's a good guy and just got caught up in some bad stuff I wouldn't be upset if he stays. If he's getting into drug running on his own he can go home.

    Which is why I said I'm ambivalent.

    An article doesn't tell me who he is.
     
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    I'd say he needs mental health counseling. Sadly, and I can speak from personal experience in being treated for PTSD, that is the one area at the VA that is the weakest. I just can't get over his risking his life and limb to protect us.

    The guys I used to ride the VA bus, before they discontinued the early morning rides, were all going to the hospital for Heroin addiction. That's one hell of a tough battle and they all had my prayers. See, no matter what my grandmoterh says, I'm not a bad person. I even went to church yesterday. It felt good to be back. Been gone for a while.
     
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    The war on drugs is one of the more wasteful endeavors we've ever embarked on.

    Every drug should be decriminalized. EVERY one.
     
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    I just find a difference if the guy was caught using vs selling large quantities.

    ~454 grams per pound. Street value per gram of Bolivian marching powdee is $100-150/g

    So at the low end, that’s 45K dollars he was delivering or selling. Either way, that’s not PTSD in my opinion, that’s a purposeful act.

    Should it be legal? I think there is a great argument for that, but at the moment this is heavily illegal shit.
     
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    That's the value of the whole thing broken down into individual sales. What about the value of the whole thing? I imagine that a large quantity goes for less than the individual packages sold to the end user.
     
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    In 2010, he was convicted in Cook County, Illinois, on charges related to delivering more than 2 pounds of cocaine to an undercover officer. He was sentenced to 15 years and his green card was revoked. He had served half his sentence when ICE began deportation proceedings. He had been in the agency’s custody since 2016.

    Perez has said he was surprised to be in ICE detention and mistakenly believed that enlisting in the Army would automatically give him US citizenship, according to his lawyer, Chris Bergin. His retroactive application for citizenship was denied earlier this month. While there are provisions for expediting troops’ naturalization process, a main requirement is that the applicant demonstrate “good moral character,” and the drug conviction was enough to sway the decision against his application, Bergin said.

    Perez enlisted in the Army in 2001, just months before 9/11. He served in Afghanistan from October 2002 to April 2003 and again from May to October 2003, according to his lawyer. He left the Army in 2004 with a general discharge after he was caught smoking marijuana on base.

    Joined the service because he thought it was an easy way to become a citizen.

    Endangered fellow troops by getting stoned on base.

    Made his living by causing Real Americans to become addicted to cocaine. Number who died from his actions unknown.

    Convicted, sentenced and imprisoned by Obama's administration.

    Fuck him.
     
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    I can't find the room to care about a guy selling dope, service or not. Not really sure about his service either with a dope smoking conviction to boot.
     
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    My father became a citizen while serving in the military, it wasn't easy, it's a damn honorable way to become one. You believe so much in a country that you're willing to fight or die for it?
     
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    He served the country and put his life on the line...he should have gotten citizenship...after discharge if he's busted for dealing cocaine he should be arrested and jailed here, where he's made the sacrifice to become naturalized....the two issues are separate in my view and as Lanny said...PTSD is a tough mental state to recover from....won't hold up in court though....when it comes to PTSD we basically say....so what? Yet folks clamour to address mental illness along with gun control.....this guy slipped through the cracks.
     
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    We don't know the guy. If it is as cut and dry as Maris says then yeah, fuck him. Do I think that maybe anyone who actually served on the front lines in Afghanistan should become a citizen automatically? Maybe. Like I said, I'm on the fence about this guy since I don't know him.

    Joining the military does not mean you are a great guy though.

    What if Trump's debilitating bone spurs cleared up and he went and got discharged for smoking weed?

    Would he be a better person?
     
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    I see this side too. I don't know what the guy did in Afghanistan. Mechanic or did he almost get blown up ? Maybe I missed that in the article.
     
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    Don't know about him being a better person but I would feel better about his decisions to send our military into harm's way.
     
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    Clearly your father didn't kill Americans for personal profit by selling massive amounts of cocaine.

    I also doubt he viewed his service as an easy way to become an instant citizen.

    I expect he is/was an amazing American.

    This thread is about an entirely different kind of person.
     

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