OT US Army veteran who served two tours in Afghanistan deported to Mexico following drug conviction

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

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    I think this is probably right
     
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    While I agree with everything past the first line, and that this guy was rightfully deported, where does it say that he killed anyone? I'm not saying this dude is a good guy, but you make him sound like Pablo Escobar.
     
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    Not me.

    His conviction shows he is exactly like Escobar.
     
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    That’s just ridiculous
     
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    Not really if you believe that being part of a criminal enterprise means you are responsible for what happens because of it.

    Like charging the getaway driver with murder when his bank robbing buddy shot a hostage.

    It may not be 100 percent fair but it certainly isn't ridiculous.
     
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    Can you explain to me why you think this is ridiculous?
    Or do you just know that would be too hard?
     
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    Yes, what a wonderful improvement to our quality of life to have everyone having the right to sell dope anytime they are a little short of cash. Or even a little short on funding their pursuit of happiness. Of course they will need arms to protect their stash. It probably easier to make a deal down near the Jr. high, those 12 year olds will try any kind a shit if you entertain them a little, make um feel a little important. Quick and easy.
     
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    It’s more like saying you as the getaway driver stealing cheese should get charged for the Oklahoma City Bombings.
     
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    It compares transferring cocaine with a man who chopped people up, blew up jet liners, shot and ordered the murders of thousands, and sold more drugs than anyone in history to that point in time. There is no equivalency. It’s possible the guy was somewhere in the line of some deaths, but nothing to show intent and certainly nothing to show anywhere near the numbers. It’s like saying someone who transmits the common cold is the same as someone who transmits AIDS knowingly, sure, it’s possible that one of the people who caught the cold died, but there is just no equivilsncy.
     
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    That's ridiculous. More ridiculous than what Maris said. I don't know if this guy got entrapped by a DEA agent or he wanted to be Escobar or where he is in between.

    He could be a completely wannabe Drug Lord, you don't know. Being involved with 2 lbs of cocaine isn't stealing cheese
     
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    I’d say it’s closer to cheese than ordering the deaths of 5000 people and earning $55,000,000,000 (in today’s money) in drug crimes

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.quora.com/How-many-people-did-Pablo-Escobar-kill/amp
     
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    Ah!
    The granularity of your vision is finer than mine. I simply see drug dealers, two of them. Drug dealer are distributing the means to personal destruction and death.
    It is simply a matter of when you catch them in their career that alters the toll of destruction they cause, it does not alter their guilt nor the just reward.
     
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    I draw distinctions. A coffee purveyor is also selling drugs. It’s not the same.
     
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    Pharmacists and doctors do this too.....if drugs aren't illegal...junkies don't need to rob someone to get a fix...they can just go to the pharmacy and get some...the blackmarket drug market is just like prohibition alcohol.....violence is a product of the illegality....if someone wants to off themselves with pain killers they got from the dentist...so be it.....the Dutch proved legalization reduces drug crimes across the board. Most folks don't blink when a junkie overdoses or someone takes a fistful of pills to end their life. Any addiction is a death dance ...even if it's reckless driving or walking a tightrope in New York City....
     
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    How close to Escobar does he have to be? Second in command?

    Fifth?
     
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    Spot on! Neither is the drug or the result of the drug. Or the intent of the purveyor for that matter.
     
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    Hang um! All of them!
     
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    Yes, what a wonderful improvement to our quality of life to have everyone having the right to sell dope anytime they are a little short of cash. Or even a little short on funding their pursuit of happiness. Of course they will need arms to protect their stash. It probably easier to make a deal down near the Jr. high, those 12 year olds will try any kind a shit if you entertain them a little, make um feel a little important. Quick and easy.
     
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    everyday people buy legal drugs and sell them that can kill you...in drugstores...you're just segregating the drugs...they'll sell them anyway...always have....just like booze...make it illegal, folks will make it and sell it or buy it. Pot is legal and in one year the price has already plummeted....cheaper it is, fewer people find a need to grow massive amounts of it.
     
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    Of course you note, I strongly disagree. There is no good to be had with drug dealers on the street selling to where ever they can. None!
     
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