I'm So SICK & TIRED of Neil Olshey

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  1. CupWizier

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    That is incorrect as there are other ways to improve the roster. Some of you are so fixated on hating Olshey and thinking trading McCollum is the only way to improve the roster and showing very little creativity.
     
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    Little creativity? What has Olshey done that’s been creative? He over paid Turner
    Very little creativity as opposed to what? I'm not going to tell you that everything Olshey has done as GM was bad because it wasn't, but I can pretty easily list a lot of bad things he's done.
    He way overpaid for Evan Turner. He way overpaid to keep Allen Crabbe, then had to trade him for nothing. Meyers Leonard is getting 10M a year to watch. His big trade that saved his job was he traded for Nurkic. Who now I bet he will over pay Nurkic in a couple months too.
    The Blazers roster is riddled with Mediocre talent. With way over priced price tags making it really hard to be creative, because it's really difficult to convince other NBA teams they should want Meyers Leonard for 10M a year even though he never see's the basketball court. It's hard to convince them they should take on Evan Turner's rediculous contract, or that yes we'll give you Moe Harkless if you give us your best wing player. Olshey is a used car salesman, no matter what happens he will come out and say how that was all according to the plan, "nothing to see here, move along". I can't buy it anymore. Whether they trade CJ or not, you don't see very much creativity out of the forums because in reality we are in a horrible salary cap situation with "assets" no one wants at the price they have to pay, so it's hard to be creative. The thing is though, us "forum goers" didn't put the Blazers in this situation Neil Olshey did.
     
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    Your mom is on her way
     
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    You seem to forget that he had to rebuild a team when he first took over a team that had players like Felton, Crawford and others that quit on the team and brought in players like Rolo, Aminu, Plumlee, Davis etc at low cost deals. Traded for Harkless for peanuts as well as trading for Nurkic and got a first round pick as well for Plumlee. Drafted probably the best player in the draft at #10 (CJ McCollum). We also don't know what Paul Allen's involvement was in signing the contracts you are complaining about.
     
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    I guess that is one way to take it.
    Or
    You could say the team that played in the playoffs was missing Harkless and started Turner who also injured his toe. . Was also just getting Dame back from injury as well as Aminu. We all know Nurk went out midway through game two but did get back for game 3.
    But ....
    I like do keep from using the injury bug as an excuse. All teams deal with them. It seems it was a pretty bad matchup as well.
    Maybe Olshey isn't all that wrong?
     
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    Pat Riley was asked if any player is untouchable... his response: “No. Show me the right name and I could be in on anything.” Meanwhile, our scumbag GM, instead of saying something similar considering the utter failure in the playoffs, is condescending to fans who think the roster is flawed and reiterates that CJ is untouchable... unbelievable
     
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    I didn't forget any of that, and to be honest I don't really care what PA's involvement is, it's NO's job. I am perfectly fine saying yes he did some "good" things as the GM. His track record the last few years has pretty much sucked though. The Blazers are in one of the worst places cap wise of any team in the NBA for the 2nd year in a row. They have almost no flexibility, they look like a team that either has to make major changes or just hope that their mid-20's draft pick ends up being the next Manu, or Tony Parker (good luck). That Pelicans series if nothing else showed the Blazers as constructed just aren't close, the 3 seed was fool's gold. You realize they got swept pretty easily by a team that's is going to be lucky to win 2 games against GS. So we all knew the Blazers weren't on GS's level, but they aren't on the Pelicans level either? Then NO comes out and has audacity to say it was just a bad match up, it doesn't really matter they were the 3 seed! Was the goal to be the 3 seed and get swept? I honestly don't know how any Blazer fan could look at Neil Olshey's job the last 2-3 years and think he's doing it right.
     
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    Hey what's up @TorturedBlazerFan, you finally made the switch to S2 huh? I can't discredit what happened in the playoffs but the Blazers are in a position cap wise that over half the league is. In fact the Blazers have more flexibility than any other team over the cap because of the big trade exception they have. Look at a team like the Wizards. They are almost at the luxury tax with only 8 guys under contract and a worse team. How about the Thunder? If George leaves and Melo opts in (both likely) they are almost at the luxury tax line with only 9 guys on their roster and a much worse situation than ours.

    Olshey said some stupid things and was being a complete asshat at the press conference but some people seem to be ignoring the fact that he did say the roster isn't a finished product and needs to get better.
     
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    huh? If Allen, who is the top of the rung tells you to do something, you ignore it? Better ask Rich Cho about that approach. As for the 3rd seed, the team got it and earned it but the difference this year between a 3rd seed and the 10th spot was a blink of the eye.
     
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    I think the timing might have had more to do with our struggles than the match up or at least as much. I give the Pelicans credit, but after Lillard had his kid he seemed to struggle and the team limped home down the stretch and continued into the playoffs. I know how I was after my first child was born. Do it all over again without some of the sistractions and the results could be different.
     
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    This is fair, and I'm not saying everything NO has done is bad. I just don't think he's done much lately to inspire confidence and his tone, act, (whatever we're calling it), has gotten really old for me. He does not inspire confidence in my opinion.

    When he comes out and says, oh these guys are off the table and things like that I just roll my eyes a bit. Look it's not because I think we should trade Dame for a ham sandwhich, It's because the good GM's are willing to do whatever it takes to make their teams better, I am absolutely not convinced NO is. I think NO is out to cover his own butt and do as little as possible in the process, and he's a great salesman, but I'm kind of done buying it.
    I realize my opinion doesn't matter a whole lot, PA is the one signing the checks. My opinion is that NO is more about making himself look good, then making the Blazers good. When the Blazers under-perform his response is always, "but we did that awesome thing remember?", "This is all about my amazing plan!", there is never anything but platitudes about lets look in the mirror and the same old lines. It's the same story every year. I feel like I've been "sold" the same lines by NO way to many times and I'm just kind of done with it...

    And yes, I did finally make it over here. I really liked the olive forums but it appears that only a few of us are left.
     
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    Be careful mentioning Olive on this forum as there are some who take offense to people from there lol, but a lot of people migrated from there several years ago so it's only a few. I like the OLive format better and it takes some getting use to this format.
     
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    So, typical Olshey media appearance. Glad I missed it.

    Time to get excited for the draft!

    :cheers:
     
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    Pat Riley has put his team in a worse position than the Blazers and not as good.
     
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    To be fair, if the Blazers had won the 2006, 2012, and 2013 championships, I'd have a lot less to complain about when it comes to the Blazers...
     
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    I'm sorry but it doesn't make sense to me to say that Olshey only cares about making himself look good. Having the Blazers play well is the ultimate way to accomplish that. You know what would have been even more stupid than saying major changes aren't needed? Saying they are looking to breakup their backcourt! That would lead to teams lowballing us and their value would be lower (see George and Melo).

    If you were the GM and your team that very few thought was as good as OKC, Minnesota, or Denver in our own division had a pretty good regular season and won the division, you'd be defensive when people called it "fools gold" too. Allen told him to "Get Better" this summer. He has to find a way to do that or he'll be gone next summer anyway.

    Anyone who preaches patience is going to have a tough time with fans who are extremely impatient. There is no miracle cure for small market teams. Patience with tweaks every year to continue to build is sometimes the right answer.
     
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    Not exactly accurate statement.

    Miami & Portland have the similar salary cap situations entering the summer.

    Portland will need to resign Nurk (adding more to the payroll), while Miami will only be looking at ways to upgrade the roster
     
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    And I would much rather have our roster. They have a head case for a center and Dragic will be 32 next year.
     
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    Patience with tweaks doesn't always work either. I get what you're saying, I really do and after the Pelicans series I Was ready to blow up the team completely, but I have had time to wind down a bit, but we have been patient haven't we? Every single one of us, or we wouldn't be fans of a franchise who hasn't been to the finals since the 90's and hasn't won since 1977. I don't expect the Blazers to be in the hunt for a championship every year, I know that's unrealistic.
    Teams are going to lowball us either way. NO could've handled that press conference about a hundred different ways and came out sounding like less of a jerk in my opinion, and both CJ and Dame's contract situations means the Blazers have the leverage in a deal, because they don't have to make one.

    I agree with you that Olshey would look better by making the Blazers better, but let me elaborate. When the Blazers don't play well and he talks, it's all but this is all according to my amazing plan, it's all about how great he is. He never says hey this was a bad move, it's all just spin, spin, spin at least it comes off that way to me. He seems to have an Ego problem. It's well when they play well I look good, and when they don't I'll try to spin it so I still look good, and I don't remember him ever sounding like he's made a mistake. So it all boils down to if you listen to NO you'll only hear him say how awesome he's done at his job. How apparently being like 1 and 14 (I don't remember the actual statistic) in their last 15 play off games is just part of the plan.
     
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