Around the NBA Playoffs - Round Two

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by KingSpeed, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying the 2018 Blazers would be playing the 2016 Clippers? If they got swept by that Clippers team this year, yes I'd be pissed. Depending on which team had homecourt I'd expect the series to go in that team's favor but still disappointed if the Blazers lost even to a healthy Clippers team.
     
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    I brought it up and I never said anyone denied it, Question back to you would be why do you think I was being "sensitive"?
     
  3. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I think the Blazers has a chance to beat that Clippers team even before CP3 and Blake’s injuries. No doubt that really helped though.

    If the position was flipped and CJ / Dame got hurt we as fans would probably say wel they only beat us because of the injuries. Who knows how wrong or right it is, but even this year I’ve seen people say that the struggles were because we were missing Moe and Ed was hurt. Think it’s easy to say CP3 and Blake were more important than Moe and Ed to the clippers success.

    I actually thought the Blazers has figured out the Clippers a bit and would’ve had a shot to win that series regardless.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    All of you who liked this post have no clue.
     
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    Because I simply asked a question and you took it as an implied criticism (of the Blazers).
     
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    I simply responded to HJ with some additional information. You're reading way to much into it.
     
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    I agree Cup, just like any sport amateur or pro athletic game, injuries are part of the game, and all teams get breaks from time to time.
     
  8. hoopsjock

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    I don't think it is that easy.

    The truly great players can at least lead their team to the playoffs. Are you saying Dame's team in 2015-16 is better than any AD team prior to this year? This is the first year I think anyone can say that AD put a team on his back and carried them to the playoffs. Dame did the same thing too this year.

    I don't get how with all this talk about how crappy and flawed our roster is that anyone could then say that Dame just has the benefit of it being a team sport. Once again I'm not arguing that Dame is a better player than AD but AD's greatness hasn't translated to much consistent team success so far.
     
  9. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I played basketball at various levels for 20 years and I’ve always thought it’s the worst part of the sport. The offensive player initiated contact most of the time and it’s called a defensive foul. If the centers arms come down at all its a foul. So you have 190-210lbs run into your chest and if your arms come down it’s a foul on you lol.

    The NBA rules are set up totally in favor of the offense.
    Dames gotten really good at this too if a defenders arms are low the offensive player swings through the arm or arms of the defender and the foul is on the defender for not moving.

    Quite literally the defender is expected to move out of the way of the offensive player who is trying to create contact. No wonder you can’t guard some of these guys because it’s basically against the rules.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    So, until you referee a game you won't fully understand why you must first be a legal defender.

    And you're completely wrong about the bolded parts. Doesn't sound like you understand the principle of vertically.
     
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    I understand what a legal defender is and I’m not wrong. Your job as a defender if you can’t keep your entire body in front of the offensive player is to move or it’s a foul on you. Even if the offensive player is initiating all of the contact. How many times per game does Harden or Lebron or even Dame run into a defenders leg and it’s a foul on the defender because they didn’t move their leg out of the way. I don’t know how anyone can watch an NBA game and not see that the rules are more and more set up to make playing defense much harder than playing offense.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I'm not going to argue with you. You're clearly not understanding legal guarding position. Also the creation of contract should NEVER be the prerequisite for a foul call. That's just asinine.
     
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    Secondly, STOP watching the NBA looking for good officiating. That's your problem.
     
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    I may have liked it. Oh well
     
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    I understand legal guarding position, I just don't like it at least the way nba calls it. I mean the discussion here is about the NBA so my problem is in essence the NBA refs and how they call stuff. I think the offensive player gets away with way more than they should. While defenders are at a major disadvantage.
    I haven't reffed a game sure but I've played enough to know that a good portion of the time refs called fouls on the guys defending me if I'm honest they should've been no calls or fouls on me.
     
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    People who complain about officiating should go ref some games.

    Honestly.

    It's like telling a doctor how to use his scalpel after watching ER....
     
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    Next time you want to complain about a politician, well just think to yourself until you've been a politician you can't tell them how to do it.
    This line of reasoning is just ridiculous. I couldn't be a doctor but if they're cutting the wrong leg I don't have to be a doctor to tell them they're doing a bad job.
    You don't have to be a referee to see that they make bad calls.
    This is just nonsense... I get it the referee paternity has to protect themselves, by saying well if you haven't done it you can't tell us how to do it. Just like the Players like to tell us well if you haven't been in the NBA you can't tell them anything.
    No one is saying being a referee is an easy Job, but lots of people have hard jobs that get critiqued by people who haven't done their job. It's life.
    Such a weak cop out to stick your fingers in your ears and "go nanananana, I can't hear you until you've been a ref too".
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I think he's expressing what he wishes the rule was, not what the rule is. It seems like his point is, the refs call it by the rule, he doesn't like the rule, he wishes the rule were changed. In his opinion.

    If I've got that wrong, don't whistle me for the tech!

    Have a great Monday!

    :cheers:
     
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    Unless it's one or more of Turner / Crabbe / Leonard, then I cry foul.
     
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    This is basically it.
    I don't like the rules. I get that bad calls will be made, and I'm not even saying the refs do anything other than their job. We all have moments of doing well, and not so well at what we get paid for. I think the rules are bad though.
     

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