Actually I can, and I will. These people who think Portland was a shoe in for round 2 this year were fooling them self. Portland like every playoff team not named GSW or Houston are a middle of the pack team. These middle of the pack teams can beat, or lose to anyone on any night. @HCP catches a lot of flack around here, but at isn't wrong when he says. The people who fly off the handle are generally those who have super high expectations of the team coming into the season. It's worse when the team exceeds those expectations because people aren't happy with that. They then choose to raise their expectations further. These people whining that the team is ass are not willing to sit through a complete rebuild. They say they are, but don't realize their words mean nothing. It's their pocket books which mean something.
Not being able to compete with GS and getting ran out of the playoffs in 4 games by the Pelicans are two completely different things. I didn’t think they were a shoe in for the 2nd round, but the final stretch of the season they lost to two teams not even trying, a 4 game losing streak, and then got punked by one of those teams they should’ve been competitive with. They’re like 1-15 in their last 16 playoff games too.
Olshey said something like, "A week ago, everyone unanimously loved Stotts and me. Purely because of the 4 playoff games, now they are critics." It's the same contempt you see on this board all season, "It was just one game. As soon as we win one, all this fickle criticism will disappear." -------------- I found the Olshey quote. "Where were all these people that wanted these sweeping changes 10 days ago." http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/neil-olshey-overreact-playoff-exit/439918 You (and Olshey) pretend that the criticism/desire for deep change is just a shallow, temporary, spontaneous reaction to the playoffs. No, it existed all season long, and has all through the Stotts years.
Mason Plumlee didn't play this season for us...nor Alan Crabbe..we lost 10 playoff games...4 to the pels and 6 to the Warriors....everybody else lost to the warriors as well..
No I don’t my desire to see change is that the last 3 seasons have fet the same. They suck, then their good for a while, then they get stomped in the playoffs. I kind of gave them some slack the last couple years because GS is like an all time great basketball team, but this year was the Same thing, yes they improved on defense - while getting worse on offense, but in the end the movies way to played out for my tastes. My over-reaction to the season and playoffs lasted a couple days (the screw the whole team, trade everybody, fire everyone stuff), but I’ve cooled off and I think really need a new GM and / or coach, but I also realize it’s not hopeless, and I have 0 authority in the situation.
Well, you keep inferring that the only reason for dissatisfaction is 4 games, when that reason is just the tip of the iceberg.
How does the last “few” seasons, make it sound like it’s just 4 games...? This one was especially bad because of the opponent, but it’s been a recurring theme, and like I said the GS thing I mean they beat everybody so, it didn’t bother me as much. They should’ve at least been competitive with the Pelicans though. We have definitely seen the same rinse and repeat season now 3 times though overall they were better this year because they actually played defense but the important part is that all of that and it ended just like they were playing GS again...
I thought, especially since this has an "OT" on it, that Olshey has some other teams besides the Blazers that he actually does a good job of managing and that play a entertaining, team-oriented game. Maybe a foosballs team, or curling or junior high basket ball? But I guess that wasn't it.
Okay first off you're contradicting yourself. You say, not being able to compete with GSW. But then cite Portland's record against GSW in the playoffs as a negative in an attempt to make your point. GTFO with that nonsense. Portland has won 1 game in 9 trys against GSW in the playoffs. I said in the last post, but apparently I'll repeat it AGAIN. Portland is a middle of the pack team who could beat, and lose to anyone on any night. Losing to the Pelicans 4-0 is unexpected, but not unrealistic. Unrealistic is posters who come on here and claim Portland's going to 4-1 another middle of the pack team in the Pelicans. Portland did not get punked by another middle of the pack team. Only one game was Portland not in it. 15 point leads come and go in the playoffs. Then you bring up the old ass argument 'oh Portland lost to x shit team and x shit team in the regular season when they weren't trying.' Give me a break. Just because they weren't playing their best players doesn't mean they weren't trying. Nevermind these teams also beat other middle of the pack teams or elite teams previously. It only matters when Portland loses. How many times do I have to repeat myself before certain posters read. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night.Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night.Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night.Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night.Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Portland is a middle of the pack team who can lose or beat any team. Any night. Fix your expectations. oh and btw. If you're going to make a point. Make sure your math is correct, this isn't o-live.
You're right, I missed those words about other seasons. But the core problem appears in the first 2/3 of the season, before the All-star break. It's not just the season endings. Status quoers want to believe our desire for change is based upon small sample sets, just season endings instead of entire seasons. You reinforce their false beliefs.
this is why I identify as an agnostic....in the words of George Carlin...I belong to the church of I don't fucking know! It's a really underrated freedom
Everyone knows this. But you (and Olshey) seem to oppose trying to change that fact. He practically never makes trades.
Everyone knows the Blazers are a mediocre team, what we expect, or at the least would like is that are trying to get better. At least a few of us feel, that NO in particular is too ok with the status quo, and doing the same thing year after year. If he wasn't he wouldn't always shoot down anyone who dares say there should be a change. Maybe you should fix your expectations, since apparently all you're looking for is mediocre basketball every year. I haven't seen a single poster say the Blazers should beat GS this year, or that we should've beat the Pelicans, but they really weren't even competitive for most of that series, they made some runs to make the games appear close, but after game 1 it never felt like they were gonna win a single game. I said, that I let the GS series' slide because of how good they were, but I cited them because they still count don't they? The last 3 seasons have felt pretty much the same, but I notice you haven't fought that point, you just like to repeat yourself about how pleased you are that you expect mediocrity and got what you were looking for. Do you think NO is the guy who's going to make the Blazers a contender someday? They were much closer to the 5-6 seed then they were the 2nd round of the playoffs. Seeing as how they were only a game up, and they were 4 wins away from the second round.
When the OLivers migrated here, I had a decision to make. While HoopsJock was a valuable adition, the return of Cup and Lanny caused some problems, as it was obvious from Day 1 that they were going to fight me for the drama torch. I could've either staved them off and kept it for myself, but instead, I felt charitable, and passed it along to Lanny and Cup. They've impressed me with their consistent effort to live up to and even surpass their predecessor. Me? I still enjoy a good razzing of others, but it's definitely a hobby now when it used to be a job. So I passed the torch to those most deserving. I have excellent replacements, who will be able to keep S2 drama-filled each an every day.
I have only been on 0live for about a year, and I heard the s2 forum and o-live didn't really get along. Can someone shed some light as to why, I mean of all the things to feel superior about, where someone posts about basketball seems like a really odd choice... Is there some history I don't know? I've seen numerous people on here in like a week and a half call me an, "o-liver", with negative connotation (which I really don't care), but it would be nice to at least know why that's such a bad thing. I had seen people post on o-live their displeasure for posters here a couple times as well. I don't quite understand this particular superiority complex...
