OT Coaching changes around the NBA

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, May 7, 2018.

  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Has the NBA coach of the year ever been jobless when he received the award? That would be pretty hilarious.
     
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    The more I think about it the more I'm convinced David Blatt would be a perfect fit for the Blazers. He's a great basketball mind, as good as any, has a little NBA experience now and wouldn't have to deal with egos like Lebron's. I think he could be our Brad Stevens, honestly. And Being from Israel I've seen A lot of Blatt and I'm not biased, he's really a very good coach.
     
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    Which kind of shows coaching hasn't impacted GS as much as the talent has. Even Mark Jackson had them close. I don't care for Jackson but it kind of reminds me of the Lenny Wilkens situation in Portland when he was let go after a season of not having Walton healthy and then Ramsay takes over and gets a healthy Walton along with Lucas, Twardzik and a drafted Johnny Davis. Wilkens then went on to Seattle and made it to the finals 2 years in a row with winning it the second time.
     
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    George Karl probably came close..not sure when Denver fired him when he won COY but there was bad blood when they did
     
  5. Chris Craig

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    He won't be. Blazers should go after him now.
     
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    veteran coaches are not getting the jobs so far...all assistants ..Charlotte, Knicks....Stan Van Gundy, Mike Woodson, Mo Cheeks,Mark Jackson, Kevin McHale, Jason Kidd, Jeff Van Gundy, Casey, Budenholzer....long list of vet coaches unemployed...landscape is changing...all of these guys will get or keep their assistant jobs in a heartbeat though.
     
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    I remember Sam Mitchell was COY and fired really close to getting the award.
     
  8. Chris Craig

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    Casey is an expericend and more succesful than most if not everyone else on that list. Milwaukee and Orlando will go after him hard.
     
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    Dude, you need to put a disclaimer in your post before you say something like this.
    Spit my powerade all over my computer screen from laughing.
     
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    I'd like to see a team go without a coach. I think this would be a perfect idea for SAC to run with, since they're such a shit organization and have wanted to experiment with the game in crazy ways (Cherry Picking!).

    The idea would be to build a team full of vets who know how to play - you wouldn't want to waste developmental years with this. Build around Vince, Z-Bo and Shump and add others who are at a similar point in their career - either guys who were once great, or at least solid role players who have been around a while, but guys that are pretty cheap at this point in their careers. Get Tyson Chandler, Rudy Gay (again!), Pau or Marc, that one PG who use to be on the Kings whose name I can't remember. Then just let them run the team. Maybe you pick 5 players that the HC duties rotate between. But the players decide how they want to run practice, they come up with the sets they want to run, and their defensive system.

    I think that would be more interesting than half the teams in the league currently are...and they wouldn't be any worse than the typical cellar dwellers!
     
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    What is worse than a cellar dweller? Isn't that as low as you can go and not really setting the bar very high for a team. I could just imagine the whining in this forum. It's bad enough as it is and we were a playoff team for all but one year with Stotts.
     
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    I think the truly knowledgeable fans think big picture... to at least legitimately contend for a title if not win one. I enjoy drafting high lottery picks and watching them develope. It’s the hope that makes basketball truly exciting. Without hope there is not much fun in it if you ask me... and this team has no hope. Are the good enough to make the playoffs? Yes... but that’s about it. If I were Paul Allen I would throw 10-15 mil per at Jay Wright... trade Dame and CJ for younger players and picks and try to build a championship team 3-5 years from now. Current team will never compete for a title no matter how many bandaids you out on it
     
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    What team has completely stripped it down and won a championship in 3-5 years with younger players and draft picks? Why does that new team get 3-5 years but the current group has no hope after just 3 years since stripping it down?

    You could probably say the Warriors but other than Steph Curry at #7 they didn't have a single player on their roster that they personally drafted in the top-10. The last Spurs team that won it had Duncan drafted 17 years prior but other than that didn't have a single one of their own lottery picks. The Cavs and earlier Spurs teams got the #1 pick in years that just happened to have players that would go on to be historic greats. The Mavs drafted Dirk with a draft day trade and suffered numerous playoff defeats in early rounds before figuring it all out ONE year in Dirk's 13th year.

    Don't you dare say the 76ers either. This was year 5 of the most complete tear down in NBA history and they have exactly 1 playoff series win to show for it in those 5 years over a weak Miami Heat team. You can't count them until they actually accomplish something. You said 3-5 years too so they are heading into their 6th year.
     
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    I guess everyone has a different definition of hope. Everyone looks to Philly and the Lakers as being the blueprint, but IMO both need free agents to actually save themselves from their 5 year miserable rebuild strategy. The Lakers will most definitely get FA help, but would Portland? Do we have homegrown super stars wanting to come back?

    Philly is the only team where it looks to have worked. But until it does, it hasn't.
    They need Embiid to stay healthy.
     
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    The closest was George Karl in 2013. He was named Coach of the Year and a few weeks later was fired.
     
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    You aren't Paul Allen and you don;t have anything to do with team decisions and just because you think that's what should be done doesn't mean it should be done either.I also get tired of your false superiority complex when you make comments like "knowledgeable fans". What makes you think your knowledge is so superior? Ever coached? ever been a GM? Ever played at a higher level?
     
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    Not all assistants. Knicks hired Fizdale.
     
  18. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I know this is confusing, but as of 2017 we now have two different NBA Coach of the Year awards. The award Casey just won is the N.B.C.A. (National Basketball Coach's Association) Coach of the year. This is voted on by the 30 NBA head coaches only and the voting is at the end of the regular season (before the playoffs start):

    "The N.B.C.A. introduced its own Coach of the Year Award last season, based on polling of the league’s 30 head coaches after the regular season"

    The official NBA Coach of the Year award is different. This one has been around forever (also called the Red Auerbach Award) and is voted on by members of the media. This is the one most of us think of (rightly so) when we hear NBA Coach of the Year. That one hasn't been announced yet. It will be announced on June 25th at the NBA's Awards Show when all the other major regular season awards (MVP, ROY, DPOY, MIP, etc.) will also be announced.

    BNM
     
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    If trading your best players gets you a championship in 3 years, lol, everyone would do it. Are you crazy? Even Cleveland, after tanking for LeBron, had to wait THIRTEEN YEARS before he actually brought them a championship.
     
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    Not saying that trading Dame is the right path... I personally would go that route to take advantage of Paul’s resources to get a coach like Jay Wright to lead a young team. When I say big picture I look at if a team can win a title or has a path... this team doesn’t
     

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