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  1. Labinot41

    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    And our "System" is give Dame and CJ the Ball and get out of the way :(
     
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    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    Robert Covington plays horrible for the 6ers. I would love to have him on the Blazers. Maybe LeBron goes to the 6ers so they don't need him anymore
     
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  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    If LeBron goes there they keep Covington and start LeBron and Simmons in the backcourt.
     
  4. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    My favorite realistic idea:

    MIL Gets: Al-Farouq Aminu
    POR Gets: Matthew Dellavedova (TPE), Jerryd Bayless, 10th Pick, 26th Pick
    PHI Gets: 17th Pick, 24th Pick, Right to Swap 2019 1sts (POR)

    MIL needs PF help, and Aminu gives them another hybrid forward with switchability potential (they already have Giannis, Middleton, and Snell who can guard positions 1-4). They also shed a bad contract in Dellavedova as they're dangerously close to the tax. Could send out Snell instead. Philadelphia turns 10 and 26 into 17, 24, and the right to swap 2019 1sts while shedding Bayless to create cap space.

    POR Gets: Courtney Lee, Marvin Williams, 9th Pick
    NYK Gets: Evan Turner, Caleb Swanigan, 10th Pick, 2019 MIN/LAL 2nd, 2021 POR 2nd
    CHA Gets: Lance Thomas, Jake Layman, 2021 MIA 2nd (POR), 2022 POR 2nd

    New York will be tanking next year with Porzingas possibly missing the whole season, and consolidating Lee and Thomas is a lateral move that saves them $1.5M. However, they decide to add Swanigan and two future 2nds to move down one spot in the draft, where they would likely draft Sexton or Young at 10. Allows us to take Mikal Bridges at 9.
    Charlotte saves apx. $6.5M over the next couple years by swapping Williams for Thomas and cutting Layman (or they could keep him if they want). They also get a couple 2nd round picks. Portland gets their Aminu replacement.

    POR drafts Mikal Bridges 9th, Chandler Hutchison 26th.

    After Darrell Arthur opts-in, Portland trades Jerryd Bayless to Denver for Darrell Arthur
    - Both mediocre players on similar expiring contracts, Portland would need PF depth, Denver has a ton of PFs (Faried, Millsap, Lyles, Hernangomez) and needs PG depth.

    Portland resigns Jusuf Nurkic and Ed Davis

    Lillard (36) / McCollum (12) / Baldwin / Dellavedova
    McCollum (23) / Lee (20) / Hutchison (5)
    Bridges (20) / Harkless (24) / Hutchison (4)/ Thomas
    Collins (24) / Williams (24) / Arthur
    Nurkic (30) / Davis (18) / Leonard

    That team is better defensively IMO. But offensively, we have a lot better 3pt shooting with the additions of Williams, Lee, and Bridges. We also have more youth going forward.

    In the summer of 2020, Harkless, Leonard, Dellavedova, Thomas, Lee, and Williams would all expire. We'd have some cap space with a core of Lillard, McCollum, Collins, Nurkic, Bridges, Davis, and Hutchison.
     
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    10 and 26 for 17 and 24 isn't "consolidating".
     
  6. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    And a right to swap 1sts while getting rid of Bayless' contract.

    I love how I post a trade idea and people take half of it and say something. Read the whole thing.
     
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    I read the whole thing. "Philadelphia consolidates10 and 26 into17, 24"

    Consolidate: combine (a number of things) into a single more effective or coherent whole.

    Trading 3 picks for 3picks and a salary dump isn't them consolidating. Especially when they're trading down in the draft. If they consolidate 10 and 26, it'd be for 6, or 7. Or a player. You didn't consolidate.
     
  8. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I think I was thinking of another word that starts with c.

    Substitute "swap" then..
     
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    I've been looking at rosters & salaries tonight to see if there's any realistic way to improve the team.

    I don't see that there are really many legitimate trade options.

    Here's one that I think might have some legs:
    ET + Meyers ($28.4M out) to Memphis for Parsons + #32 pick ($24.1M in).

    Memphis does this for healthy players. ET & Parsons have about equal impact when they play. ET just plays a lot more. They also take on Meyers as a reclaimation project in hopes of flipping him.

    Portland does this to get a better fit & much bether 3pnt shooting. They know Parsons will only play about 50% of the games. Training staff will help him focus on being available for the playoffs.

    As a follow-up trade, I'd look to do:
    Swanigan + future 2nd ($1.5M out) to Charlotte for Jeremy Lamb ($7.5M in using the Crabbe TPE).

    Lamb takes over Pats role as the backup SG & ocationally sliding over to SF.

    Charlotte cuts payroll.

    We add $2M in salary overall, but we no longer need to pay Pat & can let him walk
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why would Memphis do that? They give up the best player and a pick to take on $4M more of useless salary. Makes no sense.

    Charlottes not going to trade Lamb for $6M savings and a bunch of nothing. He's expiring. They have much worse contracts. That's like saying we trade Aminu for Tony Bradley and a 2nd to "save salary".

    Sorry man.. haha.
     
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    These are no more unrealistic than the trades you propose here all the time.

    I admit that the Lamb trade is far fetched.

    The Parsons trade is completely fair IMO, due to his injury history.
     
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    Bird played 4 for 4-5 years than McHale started there and LB moved to the 3.
    Many players including MJ didn't know if he was a 40r3...
     
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    and I'm not comparing Collins to Bird I agree that he's either a 4 and/or some 5.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    God please no...
     
  15. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    That's false.
     
  16. hoopsjock

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    For anyone interested I made a post on Liberty Ballers asking what they thought would be fair compensation for taking on the contract of Bayless for no money going back. I read an article saying they were likely to stretch Bayless this summer so I thought why not see what they'd be willing to give up instead of having to do that.

    https://www.libertyballers.com/2018...s-instead-of-stretching-his-contract#comments

    One idea I hadn't really thought of until making the post was instead of draft pick compensation to try and get the rights to Jonah Bolden, Anzejs Pasecniks, and/or Mathias Lessort. The article I read also seemed to indicate that they weren't going to pick up the extremely cheap team option for Richaun Holmes of $1.6 million because every penny is crucial to getting enough for a max free agent.

    If they gave us Bolden, Holmes, and Bayless for the TPE that would be pretty solid in my opinion. They have four 2nd round picks (38, 39, 56, 60) that we could try and get included as well. A big rotation of Nurk, Collins, Bolden (if he came over or Aminu if he doesn't), and Holmes is pretty strong with a ton of upside. I'd imagine the 76ers are pretty high on Bolden though.
     
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    Bolden and Lessort would both interest me. I was high on Lessort and Bolden fits our system.
     
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    Would you take on Bayless for just the rights to those two? Lessort is only 6'9" and can't/doesn't really shoot outside so I'm not as high on him. Bolden would be a good fit though. I kind of like the thought of a Bolden and Collins tandem.
     
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    I like Lessort because of his defensive versatility. He can guard multiple positions. He’s also one of the best offensive rebounders in Europe. Pretty much if you like Jordan Bell you would like Lessort. Would I take on Bayless just for Lessort? I mean it’s not my money, but if we’re using the TPE I’d want someone better. But if they added Bolden as well, I just might. I also like Cabarrot. Bayless, Lessort, and Cabarrot for the TPE?
     
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    If Bolden wasn't included I would want #26 then. Bayless, TLC, #26, and the rights to Lessort? That seems pretty fair.

    I'd let Napier and Connaughton walk then and just let Bayless and TLC take over their minutes. Bayless might be a good trade chip at the deadline as an expiring contract too.
     
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