I'm So SICK & TIRED of Neil Olshey

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BonesJones, Apr 22, 2018.

  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    32,053
    Likes Received:
    40,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hmmm...well I'm not going to doubt you, since just because I don't recall such an article doesn't mean that it didn't exist. But I'd think such a claim would/should have been roundly lampooned. Even if they were similar statistically, their skillsets differ significantly.
     
  2. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    13,628
    Likes Received:
    10,968
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    un-retired
    Location:
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Ukraine
    I don't always agree with what you say, but I enjoy listening to the the way you say it! :)
     
    riverman and BBert like this.
  3. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    13,628
    Likes Received:
    10,968
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    un-retired
    Location:
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Ukraine
    Agreed.
     
  4. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    26,326
    Likes Received:
    19,817
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Selfless Public Servant
    Location:
    South Blazerlandia
    Agreed
     
  5. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    I honestly don't know if it was made up in my head or not. I will look for it this afternoon when I get off of work. Either way you're right that it's not really something that was very accurate. Anyways, I'll try to find it and if I can't we can just call me crazy and I'm cool with it heh.
     
    PtldPlatypus likes this.
  6. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    26,326
    Likes Received:
    19,817
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Selfless Public Servant
    Location:
    South Blazerlandia
    Wow that's spooky

    :cheers:
     
    UKRAINEFAN likes this.
  7. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    Not even close to the same situation. George publicly wanted out and was traded in the off season after it was apparent that team was going nowhere when it was swept in the 1st round. The Kings were bad every year and weren't close to the playoffs and were facing having to give Cousins a super max contract. I'll throw Love in there too as he wouldn't commit publicly to re-signing either.

    Aldridge on the other hand had publicly committed to the team long term. The only reason he didn't sign an extension the year before he left was that there is a stupid rule that he would make more money if he waited. The Blazers had just won 54 games and Aldridge had two of his best career games in the playoffs.

    The next season at the trade deadline the Blazers were poised to get the 2nd seed. Everything was going great. The Warriors were the 1st seed but they hadn't won a title at that point so no one thought they'd be unbeatable. The West was wide open. The Wes injury occurred after the trade deadline so there is nothing Olshey could've done at that point and that moment changed everything. After that moment sure it would've been nice to trade him but no longer an option.
     
  8. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    Henderson had injury problems his one year here. The Blazers might have known his hip could fail him at any time. Of course looking back I'd rather have Henderson (even injured) than Turner at that price.
     
    PtldPlatypus likes this.
  9. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    You enjoy him trying to discourage discussion and take the conversation to personal attacks?
     
  10. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    If everything was so great why was everyone having to walk on eggshells around him? He had obviously become a problem even though the Blazers were very good and at the time most people would not have wanted the trade. I just think it’s on NO to handle that last year better not by Boeing down to LMA and walking on eggshells but to make LMA and Dame figure it out, make the coach do something. If the relationship was that strained between your best two players the Blazers were gonna have to move on from one of them at some point. I mean now they look back and wish things were different but so do Kobe and Shaq...
     
  11. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    Placing blame on NO for Aldridge leaving is ridiculous. LMA wanted to leave before NO was even in Portland. Nobody was going to convince him to stay.
     
    BBert and riverman like this.
  12. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    Then NO shouldn’t have let him walk for nothing and traded him right?
     
    UKRAINEFAN, tester551 and BBert like this.
  13. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    66,375
    Likes Received:
    64,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    probably because things weren't so great...Olshey said after letting that core go that we weren't good enough and Aldridge didn't want to work with a young roster.....got his wish playing with Duncan, Ginobli and Pau Gasol.....guys close to 40....he wanted to play with Tyson Chandler which was the attraction in Phoenix...and he was close to Earl Watson as was Wes..ironically, Pop made him play in the paint as a center his first year..didn't go well. This season he went back to being a pick and pop PF but Pop did get him blocking shots at a higher clip.
     
  14. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    Yes. I agree. That was a huge mistake. I’ve said it before.
     
    BBert likes this.
  15. Gronk Brady

    Gronk Brady Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1,531
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, but you can place blame on Neil for not trading him earlier since even a common fan knew LMA wanted to leave... it’s Neil’s fault we got nothing in return
     
  16. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    Maybe. Unless Paul Allen told him they weren’t trading him.
     
    UKRAINEFAN and BBert like this.
  17. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    66,375
    Likes Received:
    64,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Neil took Lamarcus at his word and I don't think anybody thought Lamarcus would leave a 120 mill max deal in Portland to sign an 80 mill deal elsewhere...Lamarcus could have agreed to a sign in trade but he lied about his intentions...Olshey and Paul Allen trusted his promise and he fucked them ...they could have done a sign and trade ....sometimes you trust people and you lose.
     
  18. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    26,326
    Likes Received:
    19,817
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Selfless Public Servant
    Location:
    South Blazerlandia
    I enjoy his prose even though I may not agree with his point. As for the personal stuff, I don't take anything he writes seriously. I just imagine his sole aim is to be clever, and move on. It works for me anyway :)

    :cheers:
     
    THE HCP likes this.
  19. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    Because that is Aldridge's personality. He hated Roy for years because he thought he went to dinner without inviting him when it was just a misunderstanding. He was jealous of Lillard getting his own billboards when those were all Adidas billboards not Blazer funded. Popovich didn't trade him when he requested a trade either.

    This is the most hindsighted argument of all-time. Before the Wes injury this team was loaded and there was no talk about Aldridge leaving. It was only when the season ended with a thud that he was going to go. Can you name a time in the history of the NBA where a team who had a top-5 record in the NBA traded their best player who was also one of the best players at his position? Why didn't that "genius" Presti trade Durant?
     
    riverman and CupWizier like this.
  20. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    As with many articles written it was likely someone speculating rather than in the know. Turner and Henderson offer different skill sets and Turner was brought in to take the pressure off of Dame and CJ having to always handle the ball. Turner was looked upon as a similar to a Batum with a post up game where as Batum was a 3 [point specialist. The stats may have been similar but that's why stats alone can't be used to compare players.
     

Share This Page