Event 2018 NBA Draft

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  1. BonesJones

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    Age is taken too much into account. That's been shown the past couple years.
     
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    Next year I wouldn't mind taking Mike Daum with a late 1st

     
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    Young players bust all the time, but so does over half of every draft.

    Success at a young age still has the highest correlation to NBA success, and if you look at the upperclassman that have greatly outperformed their draft slot, nearly all were great college players as freshman or sophomores.

    The tools and work ethic are there and there's an exception to every rule, but Hutchison's growth curve has very rarely indicated great potential in the NBA. That's all I'm saying.
     
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    How is most steals being great players as freshmen or sophomores a knock against Hutchison? That's just shows how hard he's worked to turn himself into a draft prospect. If we were drafting players based off what they were as freshmen or sophomores, we wouldn't have taken Damian Lillard at 6th overall.

    In most scenarios, age got used against them anyway. It's the same with Hutchison. Hutch has 5 more years of improvement in him.. he's 22, not 27... he has a better foundation than 19 year olds above him in the draft, that will need a couple years just learning the fundamentals to being an elite level basketball player.

    Work ethic is extremely important. The ability to change and develop ones game through shear hours put into the game is valuable. Thats why I like Hucth so much. He has a great foundation and work ethic, with the feel, agility, and body to develop into something great.
     
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    Just pointing out a trend. Not a knock although it kinda indirectly is.

    It's not why, but success at every step in a player's career is taking into account when evaluating a prospect. Because again, it's a proven fact that success and age are the top correlating factors for NBA success for a prospect. I guess it's also important to note that Dame was a high level offensive guard as a sophomore.

    Never have I said that Hutch won't develop and I've noted his tools and work ethic as positives multiple times. You're just choosing to look at his college growth curve from a different (more positive) perspective. And you're not wrong to look at it that way, just understand that my view on it is well proven to be a key indicator for limited NBA potential, whether you agree with it or not.
     
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    Fuck it. Get Porter Jr.
     
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    I can't believe nobody has mentioned drafting LiAngelo Ball this year. He's suppose to be the next greatest player to come into the NBA and we would also get a self professed superior basketball player than Michael Jordan as a consultant. Seems like a no brainer.
     
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    It would be interesting to see a draft success rate by spot taken (using something simple like PER, maybe?), and then correlate that against age. I'm guessing young players have a higher rate of failing relative to where they were picked, but that older players have a lower ceiling.
     
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    Scrape basketball reference, put it in an sql table or some type of database and there you go.
     
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    Its easier to say a late 1st is gonna not amount to anything... and of course that's more "proven" since late 1sts usually dont turn into anything. Thats why you gotta look at it from the prospective of "what sets this guy apart, that gives him a chance to be the next late 1st that turns into an all-star?" Instead of "Why is this guy being drafted in the 20s and why those negatives mean it's justified"..
     
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    How..?
     
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    figure it out.
     
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    CJ for Bamba at #3?

    Ladies, whar say you?
     
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    Meyers Leonard
     
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    Sheesh.. I was asking you if you had an idea as to how we could, since it'd be really hard to do.

    That's like me shouting out "Get LeBron" and then telling others to figure out how. That makes no sense.
     
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    No...? We have Nurkic. And Atlanta also says no...?
     
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    We have Nurkic if we match an offer sheet from another team that may offer more money than we want to commit.
     
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    Not really. We couldn’t get Lebron even if we wanted to.
     
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    Same with MPJ.
     
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    Oh he's a restricted free agent?!? I didn't know!!!!!.....

    Yery few teams have cap space and there's much better free agents out there. Hes not getting a max contract.

    You don't refuse to sign Nurkic because you don't want to pay him then go and trade McCollum for a rookie center...
     
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